Comments on: Texas agency under magnifying glass over sect raid http://texasfred.net/archives/1242 No Holds Barred: News Opinion Commentary Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:32:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Patrick Sperry http://texasfred.net/archives/1242/comment-page-1#comment-9854 Patrick Sperry Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:00:50 +0000 http://texasfred.net/?p=1242#comment-9854 I can't add anything at all to this. Before I retired though, my ambulance was sent to a home where much the same allegations were made about the parents there. Guess what? The DSS people insisted that I write my report stating that a sexual assault had occurred. What I did was note what they had said, and also that there was no physical evidence that an assault had happened, and that the patient / child denied any such thing had ever happened. Please note that Colorado law was changed some years back, and Texas was used as a model for those changes. I can’t add anything at all to this. Before I retired though, my ambulance was sent to a home where much the same allegations were made about the parents there. Guess what? The DSS people insisted that I write my report stating that a sexual assault had occurred. What I did was note what they had said, and also that there was no physical evidence that an assault had happened, and that the patient / child denied any such thing had ever happened. Please note that Colorado law was changed some years back, and Texas was used as a model for those changes.

]]> By: Basti http://texasfred.net/archives/1242/comment-page-1#comment-9840 Basti Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:58:28 +0000 http://texasfred.net/?p=1242#comment-9840 <strong>I said from the onset that TX screwed the pooch on this raid.  But then again that's the way we do things in this country any more.  Someone makes some allegations about abuse of children or rape (See NC for the rape FUBAR) and the next thing you know everyone from the local cops to the FBI is all up in arms.  Never mind that there is no solid proof of anything they'll just get a 'friendly judge' to sign off on the raid.Well this time the 'friendly judges' weren't to be found and the TX Supreme Court would not roll over for this one.  Then typical of authorities who can't have their way those who made the raid clam up and look for ways that will provide damage control.It's never any more if you're actually guilty or not.  It's about finding some 'friendly judge' who will say you're guilty so the 'witch hunt' can continue apace.  I don't hold the so called 'rule of law' nor the American 'system of justice' in very high regard when it never seems like law or justice is behind the actions taken.</strong> I said from the onset that TX screwed the pooch on this raid.  But then again that’s the way we do things in this country any more.  Someone makes some allegations about abuse of children or rape (See NC for the rape FUBAR) and the next thing you know everyone from the local cops to the FBI is all up in arms.  Never mind that there is no solid proof of anything they’ll just get a ‘friendly judge’ to sign off on the raid.Well this time the ‘friendly judges’ weren’t to be found and the TX Supreme Court would not roll over for this one.  Then typical of authorities who can’t have their way those who made the raid clam up and look for ways that will provide damage control.It’s never any more if you’re actually guilty or not.  It’s about finding some ‘friendly judge’ who will say you’re guilty so the ‘witch hunt’ can continue apace.  I don’t hold the so called ‘rule of law’ nor the American ’system of justice’ in very high regard when it never seems like law or justice is behind the actions taken.

]]> By: TexasFred http://texasfred.net/archives/1242/comment-page-1#comment-9839 TexasFred Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:51:05 +0000 http://texasfred.net/?p=1242#comment-9839 Bloviating Zeppelin, not saying anything I haven't said for years... And yeah, the whole thing would have been a bloody massacre if these hadn't been reasonably peaceable folks, but the CPS and DPS and other various and sundried agencies that went in, went in prepared for another Waco, they weren't about to get caught with their pants down on another tactical faux pas... Faux pas, I love that word, it give me the freedom to say f*cked up without really saying it... :D Bloviating Zeppelin, not saying anything I haven’t said for years…

And yeah, the whole thing would have been a bloody massacre if these hadn’t been reasonably peaceable folks, but the CPS and DPS and other various and sundried agencies that went in, went in prepared for another Waco, they weren’t about to get caught with their pants down on another tactical faux pas…

Faux pas, I love that word, it give me the freedom to say f*cked up without really saying it… :D

]]> By: Bloviating Zeppelin http://texasfred.net/archives/1242/comment-page-1#comment-9837 Bloviating Zeppelin Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:33:45 +0000 http://texasfred.net/?p=1242#comment-9837 Don't even get me started on the Branch Davidians.  That was an abortion on toast from the get-go and the BATF Admin <strong>KNEW</strong> it.  They KNEW the raid had been compromised by a phone call and <strong>STILL</strong> allowed it to occur.  The ATF Admin'er who gave the final green light should be <strong>lined up against a wall and shot</strong>; he as much as <strong>killed his own four men</strong>.  They could have served the warrant on Koresh at a later date when he exited the compound prior to the assault, but BATF wanted to make a statement. I know I'm off topic, but it still irritates me to this day.  <strong>If only the FBI or other federal agencies put THAT MUCH energy into investigating ISLAMISTS in this country, Islamofascists preaching hate and death from mosques in this country, taking down and halting ILLEGAL INVADERS from MEXICO into this country.  .  .</strong> Let's try a little test, Texas Fred -- let's say the people at the YFZ Ranch were all <strong>black</strong> -- or were all <strong>Middle Eastern Muslims</strong> -- what might the outcome have been then, do you think?   <strong>BZ</strong> Don’t even get me started on the Branch Davidians.  That was an abortion on toast from the get-go and the BATF Admin KNEW it. 

They KNEW the raid had been compromised by a phone call and STILL allowed it to occur. 

The ATF Admin’er who gave the final green light should be lined up against a wall and shot; he as much as killed his own four men. 

They could have served the warrant on Koresh at a later date when he exited the compound prior to the assault, but BATF wanted to make a statement.

I know I’m off topic, but it still irritates me to this day. 

If only the FBI or other federal agencies put THAT MUCH energy into investigating ISLAMISTS in this country, Islamofascists preaching hate and death from mosques in this country, taking down and halting ILLEGAL INVADERS from MEXICO into this country.  .  .

Let’s try a little test, Texas Fred — let’s say the people at the YFZ Ranch were all black — or were all Middle Eastern Muslims — what might the outcome have been then, do you think?
 
BZ

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