Comments on: Is it Murder or Self Defense?

By: bernie

bernie — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:36:41 +0000

There are prisons that will shoot anyone trying to escape, so we already tolerate shooting to kill someone illegally trying to go from one place to another.

We could hold off shooting to kill unless they pass certain warnings first. I would say non-lethal electric fences and the use of rubber bullets at far range and lethal bullets only if they continue to advance.That said, most of the illegal problem would end if we had a proper guest-worker program and documented everyone trying to enter and deported all those who came illegally.

The lack of immigrants will hurt our economy at first but hopefully we would quickly put in place a well functioning immigration procedure that keeps out the criminal element and those with anti-American tendencies. I’m not opposed to massive number of immigrants as long as they are not criminals, are disease free, and want to become Americans not Aztlans. Those who merely want to work here and return to Mexico should get guest passes – once they ar fully vetted.Those who want to be permanent residents must learn English and assimilate.

By: TexasFred

TexasFred — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:23:18 +0000

BobF, believe it or not, I was seriously wondering, where the hell is Bob??

Glad to know you’re OK and among the living…

By: BobF

BobF — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:18:17 +0000

WOW, 78 comments and me without a computer while visiting family in the Peoples Socialistic Republic of New York.

By: TexasFred

TexasFred — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:16:12 +0000

Looks like Alfie is making all kinds of new friends…

By: Phred

Phred — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:46:15 +0000

Alfie, like I said … “The friend of my enemy, is my enemy”.

By: Top Gun

Top Gun — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:40:26 +0000

Alfie:

Go educate yourself and discover what the definition of “enemy” is.

After you are comfortable and feel like you can answer that correctly on a test, go educate yourself further and discover what the definition of “defend” is.

After you are comfortable and feel you can pass a test answering the definition of those two words, please tell me why I, or the citizens of this country, which is “OUR COUNTRY”, do not have a right to defend it from enemy invaders in any way we see fit to assure it stays “our country”.

If you do not feel you have that right and do not feel you have the spine to do so, then perhaps you should follow in the foot steps of “your” ancestors in red coats back to Canada and let the real men stay behind to send the message, again, to the world, this is OUR COUNTRY and it will remain a free country governed as a republic until we are all dead, just as “my” ancestors made it and passed it onto me.

It is laughable you insinuate “I” am perhaps a traitor when it is “you” who obviously has been castrated.

By: TexasFred

TexasFred — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:24:25 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Operation Wetback was a 1954 project of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) to remove about four million illegal immigrants from the southwestern United States, with a focus on Mexican nationals.

Burgeoning numbers of illegal aliens prompted President Dwight D. Eisenhower to appoint his longtime friend, General Joseph Swing, as INS Commissioner. According to Attorney General Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration immediately upon taking office. In a letter to Sen. William Fulbright, Eisenhower quoted a report in The New York Times that said: “The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican ‘wetbacks’ (rooted from the watery route taken by the Mexican immigrants across the Rio Grande) to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government.”

Eisenhower became increasingly concerned that profits from illegal labor led to corruption. The operation was modeled after the deportation program that invited American citizens of Mexican ancestry to go back to Mexico during the Great Depression because of the bad economy north of the border.

By: Alfie

Alfie — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:00:16 +0000

Top Gun No I’m not one of those citizens,in truth you are if you think we will militarize our border that being a 180 degree turn. As for the “Leave it to Beaver” days that’s a funny slip. If we were back to those days we would have a government that would have Gen. Joseph Swing round up illegals in the States and effectively send a message to the Mexican government to play an active role in curbing the illegal flow and trafficking. Leave it to Beaver 1957 Operation Wetback ‘53-’54. I’m off a couple of years but then again I’m a moron.

By: TexasFred

TexasFred — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:38:30 +0000

Top Gun, you can go ahead and say it, Alfie is a moron…

By: Top Gun

Top Gun — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:59:02 +0000

Alfie, let me guess, you are one of those citizens that think the government will all of the sudden reverse their past actions 180 degrees in not defending the borders and America will return to the Leave it to Beaver days here in the near future and past “actions” have “no” meaning to “future actions” in your bubbled sphere.

P.S. Homework assignment:

Read second paragraph of post 17