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	<title>Comments on: McCain plan would buy bad homeowner mortgages</title>
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		<title>By: BobF</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14141</link>
		<dc:creator>BobF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a post I did concerning the mortgage buyout  and my experience with a BRAC closure at a military instillation.  There may be some similarities?   

http://antzinpantz.com/kns/?p=2998#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a post I did concerning the mortgage buyout  and my experience with a BRAC closure at a military instillation.  There may be some similarities?   </p>
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		<title>By: Bloviating Zeppelin</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14139</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloviating Zeppelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what we&#039;re seeing is the result of the alleged &quot;wide open spaces&quot; in money.  And it&#039;s been building for years.  The original purpose of &quot;stock,&quot; for example, was to allow a business to raise capital so that it might expand, build a new office, a warehouse, etc.  But now, the procession of markets and investments are such that a great deal of control is proffered to and a great deal of &quot;wealth&quot; acquired by persons and companies who DO nothing, who BUILD nothing, who PROVIDE nothing.  THEIR stock in trade, shall we say, is AIR.  It is emotions.  It is feelings, and predictions and guessing and then either hoping something falls precipitously and tanks or something soars.  They do nothing, they stand to make money by creating NOTHING.  They ARE in fact air, literally empty suits.  And we are beginning to pay the price for people who do, contribute NOTHING but are excellent forecasters and manipulators.

John McCain &quot;buying&quot; bad mortgages makes the United States of America a new landlord.  And you know what a landlord does: it sets the rules.  The more of a whore you are, the more you suck from the government nipple the more now -- and definitely in the future -- the government will be DECIDING on HOW you utilize or interact with your shelter because, after all, it&#039;s NOT yours.  It belongs to the government.  THEY hold the note and, more and more, the government has an agenda to hold and it is a SOCIAL agenda with YOU as the SUBJECT.  And I DON&#039;T mean &quot;as opposed to predicate.&quot;

You couple this, with an Obama presidency and a Demorat House and Senate, and in the not too distant future you really WILL get some of these possibilities: a complete fleecing of the American taxpayer to the point where taxpayers simply won&#039;t put ANY discretionary spending back INTO play, and/or (likely both) societal constrictions and freedoms removed by a new government which pushes some factions of Americans, who have a history of perspective and DON&#039;T have Historical Alzheimers (that is to say, they remember that things DON&#039;T have to be as they might be, with even more occluded freedoms, who have a sense and a knowledge of where this nation has been and what it was like to live in it then, with true freedoms, fewer restrictions, a sense of an unbridled future) to the point where they believe the only venue left for repair is some form of insurrection, to possibly include violence.

You cannot stand to continuously pit the Producers of this nation against the Takers, and expect that terrible results will not eventually occur.

BZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what we&#8217;re seeing is the result of the alleged &#8220;wide open spaces&#8221; in money.  And it&#8217;s been building for years.  The original purpose of &#8220;stock,&#8221; for example, was to allow a business to raise capital so that it might expand, build a new office, a warehouse, etc.  But now, the procession of markets and investments are such that a great deal of control is proffered to and a great deal of &#8220;wealth&#8221; acquired by persons and companies who DO nothing, who BUILD nothing, who PROVIDE nothing.  THEIR stock in trade, shall we say, is AIR.  It is emotions.  It is feelings, and predictions and guessing and then either hoping something falls precipitously and tanks or something soars.  They do nothing, they stand to make money by creating NOTHING.  They ARE in fact air, literally empty suits.  And we are beginning to pay the price for people who do, contribute NOTHING but are excellent forecasters and manipulators.</p>
<p>John McCain &#8220;buying&#8221; bad mortgages makes the United States of America a new landlord.  And you know what a landlord does: it sets the rules.  The more of a whore you are, the more you suck from the government nipple the more now &#8212; and definitely in the future &#8212; the government will be DECIDING on HOW you utilize or interact with your shelter because, after all, it&#8217;s NOT yours.  It belongs to the government.  THEY hold the note and, more and more, the government has an agenda to hold and it is a SOCIAL agenda with YOU as the SUBJECT.  And I DON&#8217;T mean &#8220;as opposed to predicate.&#8221;</p>
<p>You couple this, with an Obama presidency and a Demorat House and Senate, and in the not too distant future you really WILL get some of these possibilities: a complete fleecing of the American taxpayer to the point where taxpayers simply won&#8217;t put ANY discretionary spending back INTO play, and/or (likely both) societal constrictions and freedoms removed by a new government which pushes some factions of Americans, who have a history of perspective and DON&#8217;T have Historical Alzheimers (that is to say, they remember that things DON&#8217;T have to be as they might be, with even more occluded freedoms, who have a sense and a knowledge of where this nation has been and what it was like to live in it then, with true freedoms, fewer restrictions, a sense of an unbridled future) to the point where they believe the only venue left for repair is some form of insurrection, to possibly include violence.</p>
<p>You cannot stand to continuously pit the Producers of this nation against the Takers, and expect that terrible results will not eventually occur.</p>
<p>BZ</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14136</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BobF, &lt;b&gt;BINGO!!&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BobF, <b>BINGO!!</b></p>
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		<title>By: BobF</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14135</link>
		<dc:creator>BobF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to the debate last night  about how McCain always said how he reaches across the aisle and how as president he will continue to reach across that aisle only reminded me that we have two Democrats running for President, but only one has a Conservative running mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to the debate last night  about how McCain always said how he reaches across the aisle and how as president he will continue to reach across that aisle only reminded me that we have two Democrats running for President, but only one has a Conservative running mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Basti</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14133</link>
		<dc:creator>Basti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pundits said doing would lead to disaster.  Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but isn&#039;t what we have now a disaster?

The stock market has been overvalued since the late 80&#039;s and yet it still kept going up and the credit was easy.

I say the market should be valued around 800 and we should have left it alone and let it find its own level.

However that didn&#039;t happen, as many of us seemed to expect the Fed&#039;s to &#039;fix it&#039; after the Fed&#039;s said not long ago there was nothing wrong with it,  And the Fed&#039;s are the same bunch who can&#039;t even manage a the aftermath of a hurricane in one area of the nation.

I&#039;m constantly amazed that people seem to think the Fed&#039;s can fix anything when their track record says otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pundits said doing would lead to disaster.  Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but isn&#8217;t what we have now a disaster?</p>
<p>The stock market has been overvalued since the late 80&#8217;s and yet it still kept going up and the credit was easy.</p>
<p>I say the market should be valued around 800 and we should have left it alone and let it find its own level.</p>
<p>However that didn&#8217;t happen, as many of us seemed to expect the Fed&#8217;s to &#8216;fix it&#8217; after the Fed&#8217;s said not long ago there was nothing wrong with it,  And the Fed&#8217;s are the same bunch who can&#8217;t even manage a the aftermath of a hurricane in one area of the nation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m constantly amazed that people seem to think the Fed&#8217;s can fix anything when their track record says otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14130</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JTex, far be it for me to disagree with your wife.. &lt;img src=&quot;http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/TexasFred/Emoticons/ROFL2.gif&quot;/&gt;

Seriously, it&#039;s OK, if you&#039;re new at this, you gotta learn, and this is a tough playground... Just glad to have intelligent comments man, carry on, and visit more often...  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTex, far be it for me to disagree with your wife.. <img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/TexasFred/Emoticons/ROFL2.gif"/></p>
<p>Seriously, it&#8217;s OK, if you&#8217;re new at this, you gotta learn, and this is a tough playground&#8230; Just glad to have intelligent comments man, carry on, and visit more often&#8230;  <img src='http://texasfred.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Malinda777</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14129</link>
		<dc:creator>Malinda777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called a F.U.B.A.R.  And it has gotten to the point beyond all recognition.  It CANNOT be &quot;bailed out&quot; or &quot;rescued&quot;.  It has to be FIXED...and that&#039;s a long slow methodical process in which a really HARD TIME has to be gone through by ALL...  Many WILL fail, but MANY who never thought they could WILL find the newfound opportunities and EXCEL! 

That&#039;s why we call it capitalism and free enterprise.  The Government meddling in it and mandating SOME of it while turning a BLIND EYE to the BAD parts of their actions caused this whole mess.  Thinking that by them meddling in it EVEN FURTHER just prolongs the inevitable.   

I&#039;m like Fred...I&#039;m so mad at the majority of our government right now I could spit nails...and my anger extends across BOTH sides of the political isle.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://comejoinin.blogspot.com/2008/10/second-presidential-debate-antonym.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I RANTED HERE &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called a F.U.B.A.R.  And it has gotten to the point beyond all recognition.  It CANNOT be &#8220;bailed out&#8221; or &#8220;rescued&#8221;.  It has to be FIXED&#8230;and that&#8217;s a long slow methodical process in which a really HARD TIME has to be gone through by ALL&#8230;  Many WILL fail, but MANY who never thought they could WILL find the newfound opportunities and EXCEL! </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we call it capitalism and free enterprise.  The Government meddling in it and mandating SOME of it while turning a BLIND EYE to the BAD parts of their actions caused this whole mess.  Thinking that by them meddling in it EVEN FURTHER just prolongs the inevitable.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m like Fred&#8230;I&#8217;m so mad at the majority of our government right now I could spit nails&#8230;and my anger extends across BOTH sides of the political isle.  <a href="http://comejoinin.blogspot.com/2008/10/second-presidential-debate-antonym.html" rel="nofollow">I RANTED HERE </a></p>
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		<title>By: JTEX</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14128</link>
		<dc:creator>JTEX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing that up, I definately like your idea better than mine, (sorry about the all caps thing, my wife called me a dumb a** for that! ) I&#039;m not very blogger savvy yet, still trying to learn all the lingo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing that up, I definately like your idea better than mine, (sorry about the all caps thing, my wife called me a dumb a** for that! ) I&#8217;m not very blogger savvy yet, still trying to learn all the lingo.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14127</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, I may have misunderstood, the ALL CAPS thing had me bugged... 

There is a solution, and it has nothing to do with US having to pay for it. Hold Wall Street fiscally responsible, hold the mortgage companies fiscally responsible. Line the sons a bitches up, from AIG to start with, and shoot em down like the goddamned crooks they are, thieving bastards.

Responsibility, we conservatives believe in that, big business, and our SOCIALIST government believes in throwing OUR cash at any problem...

The solution lies in responsibility, and businesses having the balls to assume it, and government not trying to dictate every action with an equally disastrous reaction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, I may have misunderstood, the ALL CAPS thing had me bugged&#8230; </p>
<p>There is a solution, and it has nothing to do with US having to pay for it. Hold Wall Street fiscally responsible, hold the mortgage companies fiscally responsible. Line the sons a bitches up, from AIG to start with, and shoot em down like the goddamned crooks they are, thieving bastards.</p>
<p>Responsibility, we conservatives believe in that, big business, and our SOCIALIST government believes in throwing OUR cash at any problem&#8230;</p>
<p>The solution lies in responsibility, and businesses having the balls to assume it, and government not trying to dictate every action with an equally disastrous reaction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JTEX</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2472/comment-page-1#comment-14126</link>
		<dc:creator>JTEX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, no accusation from me. I would just hate to see Japan and China own anymore of us than they already do. I personally would have liked to seen the the 700+ billion go into the pockets of the LEGAL taxpayers, then i don&#039;t think there would be a problem with paying off mortgages. I did not in any way want to offend you. ( If we lived in a perfect USA and the government did listen to We, The People.... how would you recommend we solve this crisis?), anyone one else have a different solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, no accusation from me. I would just hate to see Japan and China own anymore of us than they already do. I personally would have liked to seen the the 700+ billion go into the pockets of the LEGAL taxpayers, then i don&#8217;t think there would be a problem with paying off mortgages. I did not in any way want to offend you. ( If we lived in a perfect USA and the government did listen to We, The People&#8230;. how would you recommend we solve this crisis?), anyone one else have a different solution?</p>
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