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	<title>Comments on: Report: Illegal immigrant minors mistreated by US</title>
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		<title>By: evilfurby</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-15010</link>
		<dc:creator>evilfurby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 05:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far the only responses I&#039;ve gotten are personal insults. Whatever.

I won&#039;t be posting here anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far the only responses I&#8217;ve gotten are personal insults. Whatever.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be posting here anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sperry</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-15008</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Sperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evilfurby; Care to back up what you say..? 

I&#039;ve seen plenty of real studies that end up with illegal aliens being a draw on this country. I also know that after a raid takes place on a work site that &quot;Americans&quot; will not do the work at, the next day there are three plus people applying for those very same jobs at the very same wages.

What kind of rancher are you? A whiner? I know plenty of ranchers that pay well, and have no problem keeping good hands there.

Hell, it is very difficult to find non seasonal employment on those ranches because the people have all been there for so long that they are considered family.

Tell ya what an old cow hand said to me one day: &quot;If it looks like cow shit, and it smells like cow shit, then you step in it while you are stretching wire and slip? Then most likely, it&#039;s bullshit.&quot;

Your post sure look slippery to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evilfurby; Care to back up what you say..? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen plenty of real studies that end up with illegal aliens being a draw on this country. I also know that after a raid takes place on a work site that &#8220;Americans&#8221; will not do the work at, the next day there are three plus people applying for those very same jobs at the very same wages.</p>
<p>What kind of rancher are you? A whiner? I know plenty of ranchers that pay well, and have no problem keeping good hands there.</p>
<p>Hell, it is very difficult to find non seasonal employment on those ranches because the people have all been there for so long that they are considered family.</p>
<p>Tell ya what an old cow hand said to me one day: &#8220;If it looks like cow shit, and it smells like cow shit, then you step in it while you are stretching wire and slip? Then most likely, it&#8217;s bullshit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your post sure look slippery to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14995</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, Evil Furball was a comment maker here a while back, give it time, it gets worse... But there&#039;s a big difference this time, we have better tools and I KNOW how to use em... :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, Evil Furball was a comment maker here a while back, give it time, it gets worse&#8230; But there&#8217;s a big difference this time, we have better tools and I KNOW how to use em&#8230; <img src='http://texasfred.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BobF</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14994</link>
		<dc:creator>BobF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evil, what you wrote reminds me of a saying about 150 years ago in America:  Who&#039;ll pick the cotton. 

Illegal aliens are costing California 10 billion a year to care for them.  Rep Tom Tancredo said Colorado would save  almost $3,000,000 in one day if illegals do not access any public services.  They may be good for cheap &quot;slave&quot; labor but many of them are now taking high paying jobs and forcing Americans into the streets.  You see, they won&#039;t &quot;unionize&quot; or complain about working conditions.  That&#039;s why Howard Industries in Mississippi replaced over 600 Americans Citizens with Illegals.  Howard Industries is the worlds largest manufacturer of distribution transformers.

Besides, is you neighbor paying the illegals a fair wage?  Is he paying Social Security taxes on his illegal laborers?   How about disability and unemployment compensation?  Do they refer to him as &quot;Master&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evil, what you wrote reminds me of a saying about 150 years ago in America:  Who&#8217;ll pick the cotton. </p>
<p>Illegal aliens are costing California 10 billion a year to care for them.  Rep Tom Tancredo said Colorado would save  almost $3,000,000 in one day if illegals do not access any public services.  They may be good for cheap &#8220;slave&#8221; labor but many of them are now taking high paying jobs and forcing Americans into the streets.  You see, they won&#8217;t &#8220;unionize&#8221; or complain about working conditions.  That&#8217;s why Howard Industries in Mississippi replaced over 600 Americans Citizens with Illegals.  Howard Industries is the worlds largest manufacturer of distribution transformers.</p>
<p>Besides, is you neighbor paying the illegals a fair wage?  Is he paying Social Security taxes on his illegal laborers?   How about disability and unemployment compensation?  Do they refer to him as &#8220;Master&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: evilfurby</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14991</link>
		<dc:creator>evilfurby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s right for minors to be treated like that, whatever their legal status is if the facts presented in this story is true.

I also don&#039;t buy the line that illegals are costing us so much. Every study so far that shows that illegal immigrants cost us so much money does NOT take into account the benefits we reap from their cheap labor.

Our system is one that tells all of our children that they must go to college and get their business degree and aspire to work in ivory towers behind a desk. Is this a sustainable model? Who will do the work? How many of the readers on this blog hope for their children to be roofing houses, digging ditches, etc? As a cattle rancher in Texas I must say; Americans are becoming VERY LAZY!! I&#039;ve gone through 6 American workers in the last 3 years and none of them have lasted. My neighbor has had the same illegal Mexican immigrant that whole time and I&#039;ve payed over double to my workers compared to what he pays his. It is getting very hard to find American laborers to do the job regardless of how much I pay them. These illegal immigrants are an asset in my opinion. Have you not noticed just how lazy, selfish, and spoiled our young generations have become? They voted for Obama for fucks sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s right for minors to be treated like that, whatever their legal status is if the facts presented in this story is true.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t buy the line that illegals are costing us so much. Every study so far that shows that illegal immigrants cost us so much money does NOT take into account the benefits we reap from their cheap labor.</p>
<p>Our system is one that tells all of our children that they must go to college and get their business degree and aspire to work in ivory towers behind a desk. Is this a sustainable model? Who will do the work? How many of the readers on this blog hope for their children to be roofing houses, digging ditches, etc? As a cattle rancher in Texas I must say; Americans are becoming VERY LAZY!! I&#8217;ve gone through 6 American workers in the last 3 years and none of them have lasted. My neighbor has had the same illegal Mexican immigrant that whole time and I&#8217;ve payed over double to my workers compared to what he pays his. It is getting very hard to find American laborers to do the job regardless of how much I pay them. These illegal immigrants are an asset in my opinion. Have you not noticed just how lazy, selfish, and spoiled our young generations have become? They voted for Obama for fucks sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sperry</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14989</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Sperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am forever the optimist. After all, there is a market for them. Just get a hold of your neighborhood MI 13 gang member, and you can ship those kids off to the Sudan at a profit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am forever the optimist. After all, there is a market for them. Just get a hold of your neighborhood MI 13 gang member, and you can ship those kids off to the Sudan at a profit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BobF</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14986</link>
		<dc:creator>BobF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, you&#039;re absolutely right in that they&#039;re not going to listen to us.  Shoot, they didn&#039;t listen to us on the Bail Out Bill, why should they on this? 

Hmmm, watch GM declare bankruptcy, disband their union contracts, fire former union workers and hire illegals.  Think it can&#039;t happen?  Talk to the former workers in Kansas meat packing plants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, you&#8217;re absolutely right in that they&#8217;re not going to listen to us.  Shoot, they didn&#8217;t listen to us on the Bail Out Bill, why should they on this? </p>
<p>Hmmm, watch GM declare bankruptcy, disband their union contracts, fire former union workers and hire illegals.  Think it can&#8217;t happen?  Talk to the former workers in Kansas meat packing plants.</p>
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		<title>By: Basti</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14985</link>
		<dc:creator>Basti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took the Roman Empire many hundreds of years to descend into a dictatorship and into economic chaos.  Its taken the US just 232 years to reach the same point.  We&#039;re FUBAR for sure an the worst is yet to come in regards to illegals, the economy, and the real value of the dollar.  Just wait until uncontrolled inflation gets going as more and more money is printed to finance the &#039;Marxist Revolution&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took the Roman Empire many hundreds of years to descend into a dictatorship and into economic chaos.  Its taken the US just 232 years to reach the same point.  We&#8217;re FUBAR for sure an the worst is yet to come in regards to illegals, the economy, and the real value of the dollar.  Just wait until uncontrolled inflation gets going as more and more money is printed to finance the &#8216;Marxist Revolution&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14984</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are experiencing the biggest financial collapse EVER in California, YET not one politician is saying ANYTHING about the 10 BILLION dollars a year it costs to keep allowing the flood of Illegals to feed at the trough of the LEGAL population.

I didn&#039;t fall for anything, I knew when I voted for McCain I was voting for another 4 years of a Bush admin, but I also knew I wasn&#039;t voting for extreme socialism/marxism with a dash of racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are experiencing the biggest financial collapse EVER in California, YET not one politician is saying ANYTHING about the 10 BILLION dollars a year it costs to keep allowing the flood of Illegals to feed at the trough of the LEGAL population.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t fall for anything, I knew when I voted for McCain I was voting for another 4 years of a Bush admin, but I also knew I wasn&#8217;t voting for extreme socialism/marxism with a dash of racism.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Andrews</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/2804/comment-page-1#comment-14983</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred
I spent two years working in Hazleton, Pennsylvania, a town that made national news when Mayor Lou Barletta tried to do something abou illegals.
It&#039;s really something when someone who can&#039;t put together a coherent sentence in English can have things done to his car that I wasn&#039;t able to afford.
Maybe it&#039;s just as well I got laid off, they&#039;ll really be running amok now.
But as Mayor Lou said:
&quot;This fight is far from over.&quot;
Saddle up folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred<br />
I spent two years working in Hazleton, Pennsylvania, a town that made national news when Mayor Lou Barletta tried to do something abou illegals.<br />
It&#8217;s really something when someone who can&#8217;t put together a coherent sentence in English can have things done to his car that I wasn&#8217;t able to afford.<br />
Maybe it&#8217;s just as well I got laid off, they&#8217;ll really be running amok now.<br />
But as Mayor Lou said:<br />
&#8220;This fight is far from over.&#8221;<br />
Saddle up folks.</p>
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