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	<title>Comments on: Family blames rescuers in Garland boy&#8217;s drowning</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sperry</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1691</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Sperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gunz, for your service, as well as commentary. Burn out is the number one cause that people leave EMS. The cause of that? Swedish Medical Centers EMS PTSD for EMS Team has identified all the things that you noted, as the main reasons for leaving the profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gunz, for your service, as well as commentary. Burn out is the number one cause that people leave EMS. The cause of that? Swedish Medical Centers EMS PTSD for EMS Team has identified all the things that you noted, as the main reasons for leaving the profession.</p>
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		<title>By: GUNZ</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>GUNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well to add my 2 cents for what it&#039;s worth, and having been an EMT AND a county 911 dispatcher for awhile I feel I am somewhat qualified to say this:

You get ALL kinds of calls, and everyone blames YOU the EMT/EMT-P&#039;s, the Police officers, the firefighters when anything don&#039;t go their way or how they&#039;d wish it would of turned out. Like you carry a magic wand or something...

And IF an emergency call is dispatched out in more cases than not the agency, people involved that wear the badges, the guns, carry the medic bags etc are putting their lives on the line just as soon as they key the mike up and tell dispatch they are enroute...

EVERY DAMN DAY...

What about these people that lay it on the line everyday?? They have families too, and I&#039;m sick and tired of hearing the excuses and the finger pointing when the blame goes squarely on the shoulders of the parents and not the emergency workers.

Sure they go through the training to be prepared and deal with any situation that can possibly be thought of, and yes there a lot of emotions in death from both the workers and the family involved but how about a thank you? you did all you could do... I am greatful.

My God like these guys and women that wear the badges HAVE to do this??? More damn guts and bravery than most people alive outside our military.

I&#039;ve seen many step down from that job because of to much blame, that&#039;s ALL a medic needs is a guilt trip and a screwed up mind when he/she goes on his next call, and it happens believe me.

It wouldn&#039;t be a sensitive issue for me if I hadn&#039;t seen it, and yes I hope they apologize as well; the emergency workers deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well to add my 2 cents for what it&#8217;s worth, and having been an EMT AND a county 911 dispatcher for awhile I feel I am somewhat qualified to say this:</p>
<p>You get ALL kinds of calls, and everyone blames YOU the EMT/EMT-P&#8217;s, the Police officers, the firefighters when anything don&#8217;t go their way or how they&#8217;d wish it would of turned out. Like you carry a magic wand or something&#8230;</p>
<p>And IF an emergency call is dispatched out in more cases than not the agency, people involved that wear the badges, the guns, carry the medic bags etc are putting their lives on the line just as soon as they key the mike up and tell dispatch they are enroute&#8230;</p>
<p>EVERY DAMN DAY&#8230;</p>
<p>What about these people that lay it on the line everyday?? They have families too, and I&#8217;m sick and tired of hearing the excuses and the finger pointing when the blame goes squarely on the shoulders of the parents and not the emergency workers.</p>
<p>Sure they go through the training to be prepared and deal with any situation that can possibly be thought of, and yes there a lot of emotions in death from both the workers and the family involved but how about a thank you? you did all you could do&#8230; I am greatful.</p>
<p>My God like these guys and women that wear the badges HAVE to do this??? More damn guts and bravery than most people alive outside our military.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many step down from that job because of to much blame, that&#8217;s ALL a medic needs is a guilt trip and a screwed up mind when he/she goes on his next call, and it happens believe me.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be a sensitive issue for me if I hadn&#8217;t seen it, and yes I hope they apologize as well; the emergency workers deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sperry</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1689</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Sperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, slapping the living daylights out of that guy, on camera, would be classic! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, slapping the living daylights out of that guy, on camera, would be classic! <img src='http://texasfred.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sperry</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1688</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Sperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, been there, done that as the saying goes. Folks, that sort of outrage is a part of the healing process. It is a part of the grieving process whether we like it or not. It usually is quite transitory and in no time you have the grieving party apologizing and thanking you for doing the best that you could.

What I find to be appalling, is that the mans comments were reported on in the press. Case in point; I responded to a structure fire out in Commerce City once several years ago. Upon arrival I called in an initial sit rep; As in 299 on scene, side A, side D fully involved. Then set up in a safe zone as Medical Command, first aid and, resuscitation unit. (We were strictly EMS, and had no rescue equipment.) Now, a neighbor came over, and started yelling at us to get inside and get his neighbors out of this house. I told him that we were not equipped to do that, and the first thing he did was call channel 9 and say what cowards we were.

Well, to make a long story short, the first engine company arrived, and went into rescue mode, then the second company got there and went into attack mode. Three family members were soon at my ambulance, along with a Firefighter that had been injured by falling debris.

The Channel 9 crew showed up, and, after I had handed off all of the patients to other units for continued treatment and transport to hospitals, asked me about what had happened. They also told me of the report that had been called in. I explained the situation, and that was that. Shortly after that, the father of the family arrived at the smoldering mess that used to be called home, and thanked all of us for doing what we could.

The neighbor that had called the television station had regained his senses, and apologized. I just wrote the whole incident off to adrenalin logic. BTW, the mother, and both daughters recovered completely. The Firefighter had to retire to a desk job due to nerve injury in his injured arm. KUSA 9 never reported on the so-called cowardliness.

Patrick Sperry
NREMT- Paramedic, Retired</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, been there, done that as the saying goes. Folks, that sort of outrage is a part of the healing process. It is a part of the grieving process whether we like it or not. It usually is quite transitory and in no time you have the grieving party apologizing and thanking you for doing the best that you could.</p>
<p>What I find to be appalling, is that the mans comments were reported on in the press. Case in point; I responded to a structure fire out in Commerce City once several years ago. Upon arrival I called in an initial sit rep; As in 299 on scene, side A, side D fully involved. Then set up in a safe zone as Medical Command, first aid and, resuscitation unit. (We were strictly EMS, and had no rescue equipment.) Now, a neighbor came over, and started yelling at us to get inside and get his neighbors out of this house. I told him that we were not equipped to do that, and the first thing he did was call channel 9 and say what cowards we were.</p>
<p>Well, to make a long story short, the first engine company arrived, and went into rescue mode, then the second company got there and went into attack mode. Three family members were soon at my ambulance, along with a Firefighter that had been injured by falling debris.</p>
<p>The Channel 9 crew showed up, and, after I had handed off all of the patients to other units for continued treatment and transport to hospitals, asked me about what had happened. They also told me of the report that had been called in. I explained the situation, and that was that. Shortly after that, the father of the family arrived at the smoldering mess that used to be called home, and thanked all of us for doing what we could.</p>
<p>The neighbor that had called the television station had regained his senses, and apologized. I just wrote the whole incident off to adrenalin logic. BTW, the mother, and both daughters recovered completely. The Firefighter had to retire to a desk job due to nerve injury in his injured arm. KUSA 9 never reported on the so-called cowardliness.</p>
<p>Patrick Sperry<br />
NREMT- Paramedic, Retired</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1687</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LittleOleLady, this is the 1st time since I have known you that I have ever had to say, I totally disagree with you, those folks put their lives in MORTAL DANGER to save this kid, there is only 2 people that are to blame here, the kid himself for not staying away from the rushing water, and at his age he didn&#039;t have enough sense to know any better, and the father, who is distraught I am certain, but to stand there on TV and blame the rescue guys, well, the son of a bitch should have had the shit slapped out of him, right there on camera...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LittleOleLady, this is the 1st time since I have known you that I have ever had to say, I totally disagree with you, those folks put their lives in MORTAL DANGER to save this kid, there is only 2 people that are to blame here, the kid himself for not staying away from the rushing water, and at his age he didn&#8217;t have enough sense to know any better, and the father, who is distraught I am certain, but to stand there on TV and blame the rescue guys, well, the son of a bitch should have had the shit slapped out of him, right there on camera&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KeepRight</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1686</link>
		<dc:creator>KeepRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming others should not be part of the healing process, LittleOleLady. Maybe blaming yourself for being negligent, but not blaming others who were doing what you were not, namely, trying to save your kid&#039;s life. Blaming others is always, always the sign of a spineless wretch. Taking responsibility for one&#039;s actions or inactions is the sign of maturity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming others should not be part of the healing process, LittleOleLady. Maybe blaming yourself for being negligent, but not blaming others who were doing what you were not, namely, trying to save your kid&#8217;s life. Blaming others is always, always the sign of a spineless wretch. Taking responsibility for one&#8217;s actions or inactions is the sign of maturity.</p>
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		<title>By: LittleOleLady</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleOleLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming is part of the healing process everyone goes through after something like this happens, I hope he will eventually realize that his blaming the rescuers isn&#039;t right, apologize and ask their forgiveness for this.

Many (I would hope all) people involved in rescue have been through grief training and know this is his grief talking and know to not take it personally, I am sure they feel bad enough themselves that it ended the way it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming is part of the healing process everyone goes through after something like this happens, I hope he will eventually realize that his blaming the rescuers isn&#8217;t right, apologize and ask their forgiveness for this.</p>
<p>Many (I would hope all) people involved in rescue have been through grief training and know this is his grief talking and know to not take it personally, I am sure they feel bad enough themselves that it ended the way it did.</p>
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		<title>By: Skul</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1681</link>
		<dc:creator>Skul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Losing one&#039;s child is never a good thing.  Blaming the people risking their own lives to try to save the child, is asinine.
We&#039;ve had enough rain down here already to gag a frog.  More today.
The squirrels are pissed, the racoons are pissed, and so is everybody else.
Somebody gag Yat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing one&#8217;s child is never a good thing.  Blaming the people risking their own lives to try to save the child, is asinine.<br />
We&#8217;ve had enough rain down here already to gag a frog.  More today.<br />
The squirrels are pissed, the racoons are pissed, and so is everybody else.<br />
Somebody gag Yat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloviating Zeppelin</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1678</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloviating Zeppelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the emotional state that Yat was in after having lost his child.  But going so far as to say &quot;the rescue men killed my boy: -- well, that&#039;s simply unacceptable.  The problem I have, however, is with the media giving any creedence whatsoever to his statement.  Trust me, when something like this happens to an emergency responder, it cuts a piece of humanity out of their soul as well.  

But responders, being the bigger people that they are, will never be heard to say that Yat was a fool or an idiot or a know-nothing assfuck.  That&#039;s what kind of people they are.

BZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the emotional state that Yat was in after having lost his child.  But going so far as to say &#8220;the rescue men killed my boy: &#8212; well, that&#8217;s simply unacceptable.  The problem I have, however, is with the media giving any creedence whatsoever to his statement.  Trust me, when something like this happens to an emergency responder, it cuts a piece of humanity out of their soul as well.  </p>
<p>But responders, being the bigger people that they are, will never be heard to say that Yat was a fool or an idiot or a know-nothing assfuck.  That&#8217;s what kind of people they are.</p>
<p>BZ</p>
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		<title>By: GUNZ</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/318/comment-page-1#comment-1677</link>
		<dc:creator>GUNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That guy Yat needs to be bitch slapped, several times&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If words can do it, you just did...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That guy Yat needs to be bitch slapped, several times</p></blockquote>
<p>If words can do it, you just did&#8230;</p>
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