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	<title>Comments on: Three People Injured in Florida Gun Range Mishap</title>
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		<title>By: Texastroy</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-21288</link>
		<dc:creator>Texastroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of stuff burns me up. All they had to say is that the firearm ***WAS*** accidentally discharged. by leaving that word out (WAS), all they do is demonstrate and spread ignorant fear and ideas like that a modern firearm can actually discharge itself. 
1 - THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED
2- NEVER PUT YOU FINGER ON THE TRIGGER UNLESS YOU ARE READY TO FIRE
3- NEVER EVER POINT THE GUN AT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DESTROY.

They should teach this in school, hell they teach birth control and aids prevention in health class. Why not these simple safety rules also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of stuff burns me up. All they had to say is that the firearm ***WAS*** accidentally discharged. by leaving that word out (WAS), all they do is demonstrate and spread ignorant fear and ideas like that a modern firearm can actually discharge itself.<br />
1 &#8211; THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED<br />
2- NEVER PUT YOU FINGER ON THE TRIGGER UNLESS YOU ARE READY TO FIRE<br />
3- NEVER EVER POINT THE GUN AT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DESTROY.</p>
<p>They should teach this in school, hell they teach birth control and aids prevention in health class. Why not these simple safety rules also.</p>
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		<title>By: Measure</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-21055</link>
		<dc:creator>Measure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I understand it, the man chambered a round and set the pistol down so his wife could take her turn shooting.  The gun fired, and then fired twice more, after the man had set it down.  The BATFE report talks about the gun malfunctioning and &quot;spontaneously firing] in a FULL AUTO MODE&quot;.  It looks to me like the internal parts are not properly heat treated and are subject to easy wear causing (obviously) a dangerous condition.   The direction the gun was pointed when a round was chambered made no difference in the outcome of using this gun.  &quot;Don&#039;t carry a POS pistol&quot; is right and not only that the A-holes at Jennings/Bryco/Raven/Phoenix/etc. need to be put out of business.  This is akin to Ford selling a car without brakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I understand it, the man chambered a round and set the pistol down so his wife could take her turn shooting.  The gun fired, and then fired twice more, after the man had set it down.  The BATFE report talks about the gun malfunctioning and &#8220;spontaneously firing] in a FULL AUTO MODE&#8221;.  It looks to me like the internal parts are not properly heat treated and are subject to easy wear causing (obviously) a dangerous condition.   The direction the gun was pointed when a round was chambered made no difference in the outcome of using this gun.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t carry a POS pistol&#8221; is right and not only that the A-holes at Jennings/Bryco/Raven/Phoenix/etc. need to be put out of business.  This is akin to Ford selling a car without brakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Top John</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-21028</link>
		<dc:creator>Top John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pistol may have been defective, to where as soon as he chambered a round, it fired, but he should have had the weapon pointed in a safe direction when chambering a round.  WTF?  

This one is a no &amp;ucking brainer.  Don&#039;t carry a POS pistol, and know/adhere to your safety rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pistol may have been defective, to where as soon as he chambered a round, it fired, but he should have had the weapon pointed in a safe direction when chambering a round.  WTF?  </p>
<p>This one is a no &amp;ucking brainer.  Don&#8217;t carry a POS pistol, and know/adhere to your safety rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Measure</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-20924</link>
		<dc:creator>Measure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The website firearmsID.com has a list of gun recalls and safety warnings.  There are TWO for the Jennings 9mm.  One of them warns that the sear can be damaged and cause the gun to fire on its own multiple times.  Source is the BATFE/Illinois State Police.  The way they describe it the internal parts aren&#039;t hardened and are easily damaged.

 http://www.firearmsid.com/Recalls/FA_Recalls%202.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The website firearmsID.com has a list of gun recalls and safety warnings.  There are TWO for the Jennings 9mm.  One of them warns that the sear can be damaged and cause the gun to fire on its own multiple times.  Source is the BATFE/Illinois State Police.  The way they describe it the internal parts aren&#8217;t hardened and are easily damaged.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.firearmsid.com/Recalls/FA_Recalls%202.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.firearmsid.com/Recalls/FA_Recalls%202.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pink Eyes</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-20857</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Pink Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is definitely more to this story, the gun did not just go off. It  sounds as if more than one shot &quot;went off&quot; this sounds like foul play to me.
 If there was no foul play and it was just stupidity than these are the kinds of people who give gun owners a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definitely more to this story, the gun did not just go off. It  sounds as if more than one shot &#8220;went off&#8221; this sounds like foul play to me.<br />
 If there was no foul play and it was just stupidity than these are the kinds of people who give gun owners a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-20856</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Ted Nugent once said, &quot;There&#039;s no such thing as an accidental discharge. Only a negligent one.&quot; From God, Guns and Rock &amp; Roll

Love your blog!

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Ted Nugent once said, &#8220;There&#8217;s no such thing as an accidental discharge. Only a negligent one.&#8221; From God, Guns and Rock &amp; Roll</p>
<p>Love your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Bloviating Zeppelin</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-20855</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloviating Zeppelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former Rangemaster for my 2,200-deputy department, I have this to say about so-called &quot;accidental discharges&quot;:

An AD occurs for a very SPECIFIC reason.

And I distilled, during my tenure, handguns down to TWO separate strictures:

1. Gun Handling
2. Round placement

I found that -- oddly, Imagine THIS -- round placement took SECOND PLACE to GUN HANDLING.

If you couldn&#039;t manipulate the handgun in your own two hands, you were simply DOOMED to FAILURE.

Unfortunately, my department didn&#039;t want to hear this.

Which is why, oddly enough, I am NO longer my department&#039;s Rangemaster.

Imagine THAT.

BZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former Rangemaster for my 2,200-deputy department, I have this to say about so-called &#8220;accidental discharges&#8221;:</p>
<p>An AD occurs for a very SPECIFIC reason.</p>
<p>And I distilled, during my tenure, handguns down to TWO separate strictures:</p>
<p>1. Gun Handling<br />
2. Round placement</p>
<p>I found that &#8212; oddly, Imagine THIS &#8212; round placement took SECOND PLACE to GUN HANDLING.</p>
<p>If you couldn&#8217;t manipulate the handgun in your own two hands, you were simply DOOMED to FAILURE.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, my department didn&#8217;t want to hear this.</p>
<p>Which is why, oddly enough, I am NO longer my department&#8217;s Rangemaster.</p>
<p>Imagine THAT.</p>
<p>BZ</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-20852</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my buddy odumbjohn said earlier in this thread, &quot;I have seen numerous ACCIDENTAL gun discharges but the only ACCIDENT part happened between the ears of the person holding the gun.&quot; 

&#039;nuff said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my buddy odumbjohn said earlier in this thread, &#8220;I have seen numerous ACCIDENTAL gun discharges but the only ACCIDENT part happened between the ears of the person holding the gun.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8217;nuff said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silver Fox</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-20851</link>
		<dc:creator>Silver Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to disagree Fred, hell I shot my car windshield on purpose it was no accident. It was my fault, but nothing intentional. Call it what you like stupidity--I plead guilty. Shouldn&#039;t have have that 12th beer that night--guilty. But did I intentionally shoot out the windshield----accident, but my fault. I always admit my guilt and never, never try to put blame elsewhere----thinking back, at times I should have. My discharge was accidental and not intentional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to disagree Fred, hell I shot my car windshield on purpose it was no accident. It was my fault, but nothing intentional. Call it what you like stupidity&#8211;I plead guilty. Shouldn&#8217;t have have that 12th beer that night&#8211;guilty. But did I intentionally shoot out the windshield&#8212;-accident, but my fault. I always admit my guilt and never, never try to put blame elsewhere&#8212;-thinking back, at times I should have. My discharge was accidental and not intentional.</p>
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		<title>By: HoosierArmyMom</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/5077/comment-page-1#comment-20850</link>
		<dc:creator>HoosierArmyMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of sad when the trigger has a higher IQ, than the people pulling it.... 

LMBO @ Katie&#039;s AD in the bedroom comment!!!!!!  Holy Cow!!!!  :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of sad when the trigger has a higher IQ, than the people pulling it&#8230;. </p>
<p>LMBO @ Katie&#8217;s AD in the bedroom comment!!!!!!  Holy Cow!!!!  <img src='http://texasfred.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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