Comments on: Ark. cop suspended after using Taser on girl, 10

By: 213

213 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:39:35 +0000

In response to mrchuck’s post:

Both Law Enforcement Tasers the X26 and M26, can be used as “stun guns” if you will.

This can be done by removing the cartridges that contain the leads and prongs. Once the cartridge is removed, an officer can perform a “drive stun”, which means putting the actual Taser onto the suspect’s person, and pulling the trigger.

This still delivers a 5 second burst of 50,000 volts, and is, in my opinion, less painful than being hit with the leads and prongs, because the current doesn’t travel as far through the body.

For anyone interested in seeing my Taser video, where I was certified, you can see it at http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=11375366

By: Patrick Sperry

Patrick Sperry — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:33:18 +0000

As far as I’m concerned, that girl got what she deserved.

mrchuck; Ma fula Ma ool! Yes, any Jarhead Brat raised on Pendleton knows about Samoans!

By: Smokey-Blog

Smokey-Blog — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:52:22 +0000

OK, not to be “too geeky” here, but a great example is actually found in the Harry Potter book series (both the “official books” and “fan fiction”).

In the books, Harry is made to cook (and more) and his “bedroom” (through the beginning of his first year at Hogwarts) is the CUPBOARD under the stairwell. Meanwhile, his cousin Dudley is given whatever he wants, never told “NO”, and so on. While in “canon” (read – JKR’s books) Harry is never “physically abused”, he IS MOST DEFINITELY abused emotionally and so on. Likewise, Dudley is equally abused. He is taught, by his parents’ actions and acceptance of his TANTRUMS, FITS, AND MORE, that if he wants something, he gets it.

So, who is abused? Harry, the child forced to work like a slave and living in a room barely big enough to be called “extra storage”? Or, Dudley, the child given EVERY THING he asks for, and GROSSLY overweight? Or, BOTH!?!?!?

By: Vincent

Vincent — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:04:47 +0000

Right on the mark Fred!
About twenty years ago, my druggie looser little brother kicked a police officer in the groin. He was about twenty or so. The officer’s partner chased down my idiot brother and the two of them kicked the ever living shit out of him. He’s my own brother and even I agree that he had it coming and eve got of easy. He’s lucky the they didn’t just shoot his dumb ass. And by the way, this also happened in Arkansas.
If you kick, hit or in any way assault an officer of the law, you deserve to be at least tasered, if not badly beaten.
And I agree with the posters above that the true fault lies with this girls parents and as the sexist that I am, the fault lies primarily with her father. Discipline is the father’s responsibility, not to mention raising your own children. To be adults, that is. Great quote Conservamom.
A lack of discipline is tantamount to child abuse, not to mention neglect.

By: Conservamom

Conservamom — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:38:38 +0000

hmm..

1. A touch of the taser and she stopped and went along with them..

2. Father says she has emotional problems..

3. see number 1 above..

Imo..the only ‘emotional problem’ she has is parents that don’t have her in control. A couple of nicely placed spankings (never ‘beat’ a child) as well as a bit of other discipline and she’d straighten right up.

Am I a mean mother? I guess I am. When my youngest son got a spanking from me and turned and told me with a grin that that didn’t hurt.. he then got his pants pulled down and a bare bottom spanking.. that DID hurt. (Keep in mind that while we don’t use spanking all of the time, one once in a while when earned/deserved, reminds them who is in charge and what is right/wrong, and I don’t care what society says.)

My point? Parents have got to take control or the kids will. Kids will NOT let you be in control, you have to take it. Make them act up to a standard or discipline them and teach kids respect, if they don’t respect you they will act just like.. well, the kid above.

My favorite quote.. “I’m not raising kids, I am raising adults.”

By: mrchuck

mrchuck — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:37 +0000

A “Taser gun” and a hand-held stun gun are different in many ways.
The end result is supposed to be the same, make the perpetrator follow the orders and demands from a Law Enforcement Officer in charge of the respective problem taking place.
Behavior modification, that is all, AKA, follow the orders given exactly.
Ok, just what does this mean??
The girl was touched with a hand-held stun gun, and “pow”, was shocked, into submission.
A “taser gun”, actually shoots out two probes with attached wires, so a really dangerous perpetrator does not have to be close to you, to be shocked into submission. About 20 feet away.
That is the only difference. The application of the debilitating
tric current.
Before the electric shock devices were invented, we had to use batons, night sticks, saps, and lead filled gloves to apply submission.
Try that on a 300 pound crazed, drugged up male Samoan who wants to fight first.
I fully agree that a camera must be operating at all times, if at all possible. This satisfies juries, judges, that this force was justified.
Yes, I have been tased, stu-gunned, for training purposes, and it was not plesant at all!!

By: cary - Botan Ichihara

cary - Botan Ichihara — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:27:02 +0000

Forgot to mention – not all that happened at the same time.

Let’s just say that I had a knack for finding trouble as a younger man.

The Taser was mis-aimed, and mis-handled, by a young man that I was shadowing. I was a few years out of USMC, and he was fresh in the PD and had just received his training.

Note to others: NEVER ask a newbie how that thing on his hip works…

By: Always On Watch

Always On Watch — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:33:47 +0000

I had an intractable cousin. She was nightmare in all respects! Currently, she is an adult and serving time in a federal prison for drug dealing.

Anyway, as a teenager, this girl was violent and abusive. She even tried several times to kill her younger brother.

I’m sure that this girl’s mother would have liked her tasered a few times, especially that one time she attacked her mother and bit her arm to the bone.

Had the system not coddled the girl all the way to adulthood, she might have chosen a path other than the one she’s in prison for now.

By: Bloviating Zeppelin

Bloviating Zeppelin — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:48:55 +0000

Holy CRAP, Cary, what were you DOing???

Taser has just reassessed its target area recommendations. Taser PDF file is here.

Additional information is here: Police and Law Enforcement – PoliceOne.com

By: cary - Botan Ichihara

cary - Botan Ichihara — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:42:17 +0000

I’ve been bitten by a dog, kicked in the groin, shot, stabbed, had a baton used in an unfriendly manner on my person and had numerous limbs broken in various ways.

I’ve also been Tased.

I’ll take the tasing over all of the other methods, any day of the week.

And that “father” needs to get his head outta his butt and start helping the mother of his child start raising that girl, or the State Pen Instructors will have her in a felony mode toot sweet.