9 militia members charged in police-killing plot
DETROIT (AP) – Nine suspects tied to a Midwest Christian militia that was preparing for the Antichrist were charged with conspiring to kill police officers, then attack a funeral using homemade bombs in the hopes of killing more law enforcement personnel, federal prosecutors said Monday.
The Michigan-based group, called Hutaree, planned to use the attack on police as a catalyst for a larger uprising against the government, according to newly unsealed court papers. U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said agents moved on the group because its members were planning a violent reconnaissance mission sometime in April.
Members of the group, including its leader, David Brian Stone, also known as “Captain Hutaree,” were charged following FBI raids over the weekend on locations in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana.
The idea of attacking a police funeral was one of numerous scenarios discussed as ways to go after law enforcement officers, the indictment said. Other scenarios included a fake 911 call to lure an officer to his or her death, or an attack on the family of a police officer.
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The American Taliban has reared it’s ugly head! We hear about the enemy within, that would be these people, the Hutaree, and their followers!
I have had emails today telling me how the militias are being preyed upon by the FBI, how this is the start of the insurrection that will provide the spark that starts the fires of open revolution that so many of these ultra-far right groups seek to strike.
I have received email today from someone I thought was a level-headed Conservative telling me that he would stand with these Hutaree people!
Anyone that reads here knows that I am a serious supporter of Law Enforcement officers in the U.S. What I am about to say next may anger some, but that’s the chance you take for telling the truth and stating your opinions.
These people, these Hutaree, and ANY like them, are NOT Christians, no more than Fred Phelps and his bunch of loons! These people are not patriots, they are CRAZIES, they are FAR RIGHT moonbats and they bear NO significance in the overall plans or actions of TRUE Conservatives and/or the TEA Party movement!
Someone from a TEA Party has to have the BALLS to stand up and say it!
After such attacks, the group allegedly planned to retreat to “rally points” protected by trip-wired improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, for what they expected would become a violent standoff with law enforcement personnel.
“It is believed by the Hutaree that this engagement would then serve as a catalyst for a more wide-spread uprising against the government,” the indictment charges.
Tactics right out of the Taliban playbook!
According to investigators, the Hutaree view local, state, and federal law enforcement personnel as a “brotherhood” and an enemy, and planned to attack them as part of an armed struggle against the U.S. government.
Law enforcement IS a brotherhood. But officers are NOT the enemy, not of this group, the Hutaree, not of any group of people that stand lawfully in this United States.
The indictment charges members of the group conspired “to levy war against the United States, (and) to oppose by force the authority of the government of the United States.”
I’m not going to blow smoke up your skirt, there seriously IS a strong possibility that revolution is brewing in the USA.
We are rapidly becoming a socialist dictatorship. We are having the will of the POTUS forced upon us, even though the majority of Americans don’t want any part of his socialistic meddlings.
We are suffering an oppressive government that is out of control.
We are constantly hearing that there is a movement afoot by the government to disarm the American people. If anything were to become a catalyst for revolution, that would be it, not the brotherhood of Police Officers!
I can’t speak for ALL police officers, but by far, the majority of American police officers do NOT want to see the public, the average, honest, hard working American disarmed. The military, the boots on the ground men and women, they don’t want to see the public, the average, honest, hard working American disarmed either.
Those men and women are our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, husbands and wives. They too are gun owners, LEGAL gun owners. Many are hunters, many are sport shooters, many are gun owners simply because they like guns, but nearly ALL will tell you, the armed American is WHY this nation has never been successfully invaded by ANY force!
Our police and troops are NOT the enemy. The socialistic scum in D.C. are the enemy of FREE Americans, but our law officers and troops are NOT the problem!
And there’s one other thing that these ultra-far right so-called militias don’t seem to take into consideration, those very troops and police officers will be standing up FOR America and our Constitution, with people just like you and me. They won’t, for the most part, be standing with the REAL enemies of America, they won’t stand with those that seek to oppress FREEDOM.
Those men and women are called Oath Keepers – Guardians of the Republic!
Oath Keepers are NOT what I, and many others, consider Barack Hussein Obama, or the vast majority of his administration to be!
Below are what I consider to be three of the greatest quotes by Thomas Jefferson.
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.” – Thomas Jefferson
“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” -Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson
It not our police and military that we will should fear, it will be those that prop up an oppressive government and those that support the dictator, they are called The United Nations.
And once we see U.N troops on American soil, it’s on!
These ” Hutaree” are stone cold wack jobs. Does Jim Jones ring a bell? Bloomberg and his gun control buddies will be out in force on this one.
Well Fred, yesterday I heard about this. Today I’m hearing MORE about this. I would expect in the months and years ahead we will hear MORE about this.
IF I trusted HS, and the leadership of this country I would without a doubt be on the side of the government during this time. Right now however, I’m waiting. I just don’t trust the folks telling the tale.
IF these morons threatened ANY LEO’s they deserve to be put under the jail. IF they were targeted because they were playing army and preparing for whatever they felt was coming…THEN there is a problem.
I researched their site, all I saw was a religious survivalist cult, not unlike the taliban as you said. The difference being these guys have not (At least the evidence is not out yet) either supported or committed terrorist acts against Americans.
IF all these guys are guilty of is being stupid and playing “Apocalypse Now” on their own property, I say this was an action taken as a shot across the bow of the Fed up Americans that are taking to the streets.
Like I said Fred, there are a lot of things unknown right now, and one thing our federal officials are good at is “Misinformation”…Only in the last couple of years has the truth about waco started to emerge. That’s another thing that concerns me.
It appears that Liberal/Democrat ATGENS are real quick to go after “Religious” folks on our shores, as long as they are not wearing rags on their heads…
Like you said, our LEO’s are the front line and for me that’s the bottom line. IF these idiots were threatening ANY of them, verbally or otherwise they deserve what they got, and more. Mostly because they were very well armed to carry out any threat.
These people are just f—-d up. The MSM, administration and yes, Bloomberg and his asshat gun hating group will try yo use this to fire up the move to ban guns even worse than they already do. Excellent post and may cross post if I have time
When the people are in fear of the gov’t then that is the time
to be sure you prepared, all the way down to locked and loaded.
I will also note a little a bit of WTF?
From the Governments own press release:
“The indictment further alleges that the Hutaree planned to kill an unidentified member of local law enforcement and then attack the law enforcement officers who gather in Michigan for the funeral. According to the plan, the Hutaree would attack law enforcement vehicles during the funeral procession with Improvised Explosive Devices with Explosively Formed Projectiles, which, according to the indictment, constitute weapons of mass destruction. ”
Kind blows a big hole in the “No weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq” theory don’t it? LOL
IF this is the truth, then EVERYONE involved should just be shot. That is an act of war IMO. We are dealing with an all out assault on LEO’s in our area (Hemet) by gangs and thugs…You cant wait till someone gets killed before you act, the same should apply to muzzie thugs planning for the overthrow of the government. They were in the right area, dearborn aint far.
Far out nuts are found in every movement. The danger here is that the MSM and others will attempt to paint all such groups as a threat to the nation and the other “not so radical groups” will be targeted by the Justice Department under the leadership of Eric Holder. Once something like this begins its hard to stop. They have one under their belt now and you can bet they are looking at other groups. I’ve seem this happen in the 1950’s and 1960’s not only with radical groups such as the Klan, but with many Citizen Council groups who were unfairly labeled dangers to the state. We must make sure this does not become a trend that will lead to our door steps.
Militias are a GREAT idea, until they go off the deep end..
These moonbats were preparing for anarchy, not self defense, not a battle against an oppressive government, not a stand against those that would usurp the Constitution, but sheer anarchy, and the cold blooded MURDER of police officers, their friends and families!
Fred I agree with you; there would be few excuses in my mind where going after law enforcement (I believe local law enforcement in this case) would be justified. Again according to the news, they also planned to plant IED’s in the roads for the subsequent funerals. These guys are certified nutcases-I don’t see how they can relate to Ruby Ridge or as nutty as they were, the Branch Davidians. Best thing to do with these guys is exterminate them and be done with it-they are useless to society and need to be dealt with accordingly…I can understand some trepidation-consider the source?
txhillcountry - Fully agreed!
The media and the Democrats are going to use this in an attempt to put us all into the same catagory as these whackjobs, it is inevitable. These people are not on our side, they are sickos and if what is being said about them is true, the need to be brought to swift justice.
I share Ron’s concern that this could be used and expanded to investigate law abiding citizens.
We have only heard one side of the story so far. I’m surprised everyone has condemed these ppl before seeing the evidence. Don’t forget the government has announced that ppl that are pro-life, returning vets, etc are the real terrorist threat in America. Wait for the evidence folks.
Sure is fun seeing who IS and who ISN’T into tin foil as a fashionable hat…
If this had been Waco or Ruby Ridge, there would be lots of folks, dead or dying… C’mon people, give the conspiracy stuff a break, not every move made by Federal Law Enforcement is as divisive as those some of you reference…
Fred, thanks for all the digging you do to get the facts down. Even earlier today there was little on the web about these kooks. I for one hope they lock them up forever at the very least! There of course is the same problem we always face… that these nutbags will be used to give decent Americans a bad name.
Man there are just as many folks out there screaming about how the hutaree were targeted for their religious beliefs, as there are folks proclaiming it was the right thing to do…Seems like the tin foil will be in short supply for a while…
I’m staying dead center on this one until the facts come out, and the charges either stick or don’t stick. There has been WAY too many instances in recent history that have been proven false after many rants and raves and hurt feelings….I can think of 3 right off the top, Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Haditha…
I did watch that video on the hutaree website, I’m not a military trained man or nothing but I would think advancing on a position, throwing smoke in front of you as you advance wouldn’t help much,( bullets go through smoke pretty easily) you would just keep walking through the smoke, I figure you’d use it to evade and move and shoot or retreat for cover….just my unbiased opinion…LOL
Fred, I hate to see this situation with the HUTAREES. It only gives the “government” and the Left an excuse to brand all Christians as a threat to the USA. I say Christian, and not religious people, per se, because the Left adores the muslim “faith” regardless of the fact that muslims despise the USA and are in the process of destroying our country. Want more proof? Barry Sotero, AKA, Obama, is a muslim and look at his agenda against this country.
Well, it’s one of those things man, contacts, connections and the knowledge of what the military ops look like and why the warrants were sealed…
You’ll see, and one day young Jedi, listen to old Jedi you will…
Just so there is NO doubt, you have been right… BUT you have been wrong too…Don’t make talk about it, I know how hard it was for you that one time…
Despite popular opinion, I’m still staying dead center, it’s early and only hearing one side from a media that is biased, a government that lies at every turn and administration that has not told one truth since planting the kenyan flag on the WH lawn….
Robert, all the original reporting said that they were threatening attacks on muslims, which supports what Doc had to say about the MSM being in love with muzzie scum. I think Fred is completely spot on with this. It is always good to hang back until all the facts come out, but I am also concerned about the Christian issue. When the abortion doc was killed in Colorado, the libbers tried to attach the shooter to the Conservative movement and attack gun rights. And as Fred mentioned, the nutbag Fred Phelps and his nut ball family/so called church were all moonbat Democrats. Things are sometimes not what they seem to be, but it doesn’t stop a libber from pushing lies, especially the MSM.
I have to side with Robert on this one. This government is good, very good at telling lies and the media rags are more than willing to blow their lies way the hell out of porportion.
I don’t live that far from Ruby Ridge and the stories that got out were NOTHING like what the “hotdogs” and news rags were spewing.
I’ll bet a lot of you don’t realize that they STILL owe some business owners for everything from food to blankets. They were in their purest form of jackbooted thuggery when they would enter a store, flash their tin badges and take whatever they wanted and you couldn’t do anything about it except send janet reno, the dyke meister, a bill hoping sometime you might just get paid. I wouldn’t believe the government on a bet. Look how many times they told ahmanutjob they were only going to give him two weeks to comply, or else. Then,
they send old thunder thighs clintoon all over the world every month groveling to the rest of the nations about iran not wanting to roll over and take it in the shorts. Nobody wants to be aligned with us except Israel, and after last weeks
snubbing of their Prime Minister so mr smugass shitbag could go to lunch, I doubt if they even really give a flying F**K what we do. Sorry for the rant Fred, but I had to get it said, my head’s been hurting. LOL
You know at first when I heard about these raids I thought…WTF…why are the picking on some local militeria group that just wants to ready itself ofr the coming Revolution. It sure sounded like the Democrats going after more Right-wing Conservatives…that is until I heard these nuts were going after cops. Don’t they understand that 99.99 % of these cops are our friends or family members that believe just as we do???
I now understand why they raided them…what I don’t understand is why they are not raiding all these Jihad training camps set up all over the USA. These guys are training to kill any American…cop, office worker, stay at home mom…and her kids in school. I think a lot more time and effort needs to be spent on closing those training camps down.
I have been wondering the same thing extex_cop. This administration is working overtime to help the muzzies kill off citizens. They are too busy pushing socialized medicine down our throats to do anything about our enemies I guess. Go Figure.
Vigilante, you are an enlightening guy! I knew Ruby Ridge was a federal WTF moment, but I didn’t know they stole from the towns people too! That’s really screwed up.
Some seem to think these were just 17 relatively peaceful whack jobs that were targeted because they were supposedly RIGHT and supposedly Christian… They are neither…
That’s NOT the case, I am certain…
But, there are those among us that always believe the government is involved in a huge conspiracy, no matter what the government does…
The left did it when Bush was in, everything was a *plot* and Cheney had the *death camps* set up already…
The right does it under Obama, and did it under Clinton, and IF the GOP is back in power after the November elections, it’ll be the left crying conspiracy at every turn…
Ya know, once in a while, Law Enforcement actually gets it right, very right, and sometimes they screw the pooch. Waco and Ruby Ridge DO stand out in my mind as well, but this wasn’t a screw-up folks, there’s no dead bodies, if the Feds screw up, there’s a lot of dead bodies in the AO, these asswipes are going to trial, and rightfully so….
If that pisses off the militia wannabes among us, too damned bad, these asswipes threatened to kill cops in order to draw in MORE cops to be killed, as well as friends and family of cops…
Some of you really need to try wearing the badge, gun and uniform before you go off defending these nuts…
And some of y’all are seriously starting to sound like the moonbats on the left that say George W. Bush is the dumbest SOB on earth, BUT, he planned, and carried out, through his agents, the attacks of 9-11, then covered it up… Sure he did…
Can’t have it BOTH ways folks!
Some have said, “How dangerous can they be? There’s only 17 of them…”
How many hijackers carried out the attacks of 9-11?
19 hijackers… THAT is how dangerous these 17 moonbats could possibly be…
So, maybe they’re NOT as well trained… Maybe they’re not as successful… Maybe they only kill a couple of thousand… Maybe…
The facts aren’t all in, but so far these people look like they fell off the turnip patch and landed in a bunch of burning Jimson weed… Nucking Futs in other words…
These people were fanatics. They, to me, were no better than those Kansas dipshits that protest at funerals of our dead warriors. They were so hypazoidal that they didn’t stop to think that the fellas in blue proteced them as well as anybody else. I have no regrets if they put their asses in jail for 50 years. Personally, I wouldn’t want them on my side no matter what the cause was.
Those Kansas dipshits.. Fred Phelps and his band of moonbats!!
You hit this one OUT of the park Vigilante, I wouldn’t want these idiots in MY camp either…
But I gotta ask, WTF is hypazoidal?? 😕
P.S. Phuck Phred Phelps! 😛
I don’t see much in the way of defending these nutbags, Everywhere I looked last night with the exception of a very FEW, the opinion seems to be that they were outside the mental norm.
Anytime LEO’s are the target of anything nefarious, action should be taken. Nobody that I’ve heard of is calling for their release. Nobody that I’ve heard from is blaming the FEDS for over reacting. Nobody that I’ve talked to is calling this open war declared on Christians….All I’ve heard for the most part is either 100% support for the feds or a wait till all the facts are in and the trial is held. I am partially in that latter camp.
One particular writer wrote something that makes sense to me. We “right-wing nut jobs” are so quick to find people guilty based on the media reports, yet when the media reports something we don’t like, we blame the media….
I’ve got some feelers out, and some information is trickling in and as of now this particular incident appears to have developed over a long period of time. it wasn’t a knee jerk reaction, there was some comments made, and possibly a dry run of the “Plan” was in the works.
There are a lot of folks trying to link the Hutaree to the tea party. THAT is the saul alynsky playbook…It’s 100% false, but that doesn’t matter to the liberpukes.