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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4992</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree with you JR, IF they break in to YOUR house, have at em, if he&#039;s been IN your neighbors house and OUT and you have called the police, and YOU interject yourself into the equation, YOU are wrong and could very damn well end up dead if I am the cop rolling up on the scene of a burglary in progress and YOU are the 1st thing I see with a BIG GUN...

You&#039;re going down, too bad, so sad, we can write &quot;Misguided Hero&quot; on your tombstone... 

Call the cops, feed 911 ALL the info you can but follow directions, and stay in the house... 

Duh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree with you JR, IF they break in to YOUR house, have at em, if he&#8217;s been IN your neighbors house and OUT and you have called the police, and YOU interject yourself into the equation, YOU are wrong and could very damn well end up dead if I am the cop rolling up on the scene of a burglary in progress and YOU are the 1st thing I see with a BIG GUN&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re going down, too bad, so sad, we can write &#8220;Misguided Hero&#8221; on your tombstone&#8230; </p>
<p>Call the cops, feed 911 ALL the info you can but follow directions, and stay in the house&#8230; </p>
<p>Duh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4991</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think it has anything to do with heroism Fred, to me it is just doing what is right.

And I most definitely do not have any sort of a death wish.  We are responsible for the safety and security of our neighborhoods.  One way we provide for that safety and security is to hire police and elect those who will responsibly utilize those police.  When the police are not around, the responsibility is still ours to shoulder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think it has anything to do with heroism Fred, to me it is just doing what is right.</p>
<p>And I most definitely do not have any sort of a death wish.  We are responsible for the safety and security of our neighborhoods.  One way we provide for that safety and security is to hire police and elect those who will responsibly utilize those police.  When the police are not around, the responsibility is still ours to shoulder.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4993</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What part of &lt;em&gt;leave police work to the police&lt;/em&gt; do people NOT get here??

What part of &lt;em&gt;Horn is now a murderer&lt;/em&gt; do people NOT understand??

What part of &lt;em&gt;people like Horn are more dangerous to our RKBA than ANY bad guy is&lt;/em&gt; has everyone missed??

You come in MY house uninvited, as a burglar, and if I am here, trust me, I WILL send you straight to hell and I won&#039;t bat an eye about doing it, but a private citizen is more likely to be hurt or killed, or ultimately arrested &lt;em&gt;along with&lt;/em&gt; the bad guys for pulling stupid shit like this Horn guy did and going outside, against ALL orders, and placing himself in a position of of danger...

This is a part of having the concealed carry law I hate too, I have met a few folks with CCWs that had the good sense to know when and where a weapon is appropriate, but I have met many more that have NO business with a gun, I honestly believe they pass the written test and go to the range and qualify as being able to shoot and somehow there&#039;s NO consideration given to the fact that this SOB wants nothing more than to be Charles Bronson when in reality they are nothing more than Barney Fife, &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; the badge...

For crying out loud folks, think of the damage that YOU are doing and the danger you are placing yourself in, and the danger you are placing the officers in because they don&#039;t know you from Adam, all they know is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;BURGLARY IN PROGRESS&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and when they roll up, here&#039;s a guy with a gun in hand, the situation just escalated at least 10 fold, so, you scream, &quot;I am a citizen and they are the bad guys&quot;, uh, &lt;em&gt;how do I &lt;strong&gt;KNOW&lt;/strong&gt; that&lt;/em&gt;??

So, instead of dealing with 2 suspects that are likely burglars, possibly armed and for damn sure dangerous, 2 individuals I need to focus my full and undivided attention on, I now have 3 individuals to deal with and one is brandishing a gun and screaming about not being a bad guy...

Lemme think, lemme think... Hmmmm...

These things have a tendency to &lt;em&gt;NOT&lt;/em&gt; turn out well...

Follow orders and make it easy on the officers...

Stay in the goddamned house....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part of <em>leave police work to the police</em> do people NOT get here??</p>
<p>What part of <em>Horn is now a murderer</em> do people NOT understand??</p>
<p>What part of <em>people like Horn are more dangerous to our RKBA than ANY bad guy is</em> has everyone missed??</p>
<p>You come in MY house uninvited, as a burglar, and if I am here, trust me, I WILL send you straight to hell and I won&#8217;t bat an eye about doing it, but a private citizen is more likely to be hurt or killed, or ultimately arrested <em>along with</em> the bad guys for pulling stupid shit like this Horn guy did and going outside, against ALL orders, and placing himself in a position of of danger&#8230;</p>
<p>This is a part of having the concealed carry law I hate too, I have met a few folks with CCWs that had the good sense to know when and where a weapon is appropriate, but I have met many more that have NO business with a gun, I honestly believe they pass the written test and go to the range and qualify as being able to shoot and somehow there&#8217;s NO consideration given to the fact that this SOB wants nothing more than to be Charles Bronson when in reality they are nothing more than Barney Fife, <em>without</em> the badge&#8230;</p>
<p>For crying out loud folks, think of the damage that YOU are doing and the danger you are placing yourself in, and the danger you are placing the officers in because they don&#8217;t know you from Adam, all they know is <strong><em>BURGLARY IN PROGRESS</em></strong> and when they roll up, here&#8217;s a guy with a gun in hand, the situation just escalated at least 10 fold, so, you scream, &#8220;I am a citizen and they are the bad guys&#8221;, uh, <em>how do I <strong>KNOW</strong> that</em>??</p>
<p>So, instead of dealing with 2 suspects that are likely burglars, possibly armed and for damn sure dangerous, 2 individuals I need to focus my full and undivided attention on, I now have 3 individuals to deal with and one is brandishing a gun and screaming about not being a bad guy&#8230;</p>
<p>Lemme think, lemme think&#8230; Hmmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>These things have a tendency to <em>NOT</em> turn out well&#8230;</p>
<p>Follow orders and make it easy on the officers&#8230;</p>
<p>Stay in the goddamned house&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4990</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, I know you&#039;re a gun guy, but you aren&#039;t a cop, and I am guessing you never were a cop... 

All that is well and good but it&#039;s best to leave LAW ENFORCEMENT to the police, the hero syndrome quickly turns into a death wish, yours and theirs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, I know you&#8217;re a gun guy, but you aren&#8217;t a cop, and I am guessing you never were a cop&#8230; </p>
<p>All that is well and good but it&#8217;s best to leave LAW ENFORCEMENT to the police, the hero syndrome quickly turns into a death wish, yours and theirs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One positive consequence of incidents such as this is the discussion that follows.  The fact that pretty much the entire incident was caught on tape, gives us a lot to talk, and think about.

I have thought long and hard about what I would have done in Mr. Horn&#039;s shoes.

Home alone during the daytime.  Discover a burglary in progress at the neighbors house.  What to do?

Many would dial 911 and leave it at that.  Some would not even dial 911, no need to get involved.

What would I do?  

I would have called 911 on my cell phone and given the appropriate details.  I would not have run off at the mouth.

If the burglars looked as if they were going to get away, I would confront them, not with a shotgun, with a rifle.  I would not knowingly and willingly allow some criminal to get away with stealing my neighbors property.  No way.  I have worked my entire life for what I have, and I assume my neighbors have also.  If the criminals get away, the odds of getting the stolen items back is minimal.  Criminal activity such as this must be confronted.

Shoot or not shoot?  If they attempted to run, I would not shoot them unless I knew for a fact that they had stolen guns.   Other than that, I would only shoot if necessary to protect my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One positive consequence of incidents such as this is the discussion that follows.  The fact that pretty much the entire incident was caught on tape, gives us a lot to talk, and think about.</p>
<p>I have thought long and hard about what I would have done in Mr. Horn&#8217;s shoes.</p>
<p>Home alone during the daytime.  Discover a burglary in progress at the neighbors house.  What to do?</p>
<p>Many would dial 911 and leave it at that.  Some would not even dial 911, no need to get involved.</p>
<p>What would I do?  </p>
<p>I would have called 911 on my cell phone and given the appropriate details.  I would not have run off at the mouth.</p>
<p>If the burglars looked as if they were going to get away, I would confront them, not with a shotgun, with a rifle.  I would not knowingly and willingly allow some criminal to get away with stealing my neighbors property.  No way.  I have worked my entire life for what I have, and I assume my neighbors have also.  If the criminals get away, the odds of getting the stolen items back is minimal.  Criminal activity such as this must be confronted.</p>
<p>Shoot or not shoot?  If they attempted to run, I would not shoot them unless I knew for a fact that they had stolen guns.   Other than that, I would only shoot if necessary to protect my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4982</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud Horn for doing something, however what he did was ridiculously dumb.
Once he called 9-11, informed the operator of all pertinent information, his duty and HERO status was assure. Once he disobeyed the Operator, his status changed from Hero to Zero, he became no better than the criminals he killed.

IF Horn would have told the operator what was going on, where and when, and then hung up... Then it would have been up to CSI to determine the Guilt or innocence of Horn. Instead Horn did it for them.

Good Luck Mr.Horn, you&#039;re going to need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud Horn for doing something, however what he did was ridiculously dumb.<br />
Once he called 9-11, informed the operator of all pertinent information, his duty and HERO status was assure. Once he disobeyed the Operator, his status changed from Hero to Zero, he became no better than the criminals he killed.</p>
<p>IF Horn would have told the operator what was going on, where and when, and then hung up&#8230; Then it would have been up to CSI to determine the Guilt or innocence of Horn. Instead Horn did it for them.</p>
<p>Good Luck Mr.Horn, you&#8217;re going to need it.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasFred</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4983</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, he DID something, he committed MURDER...

I see your point on calling 911 &lt;em&gt;and then letting the police do their job&lt;/em&gt;, calling 911 was the ONLY thing he did right, he didn&#039;t allow theÂ police to do their job, he took the law into his own hands and he killed the guys...

Some folks think he&#039;s a hero, but what he really is, is a murderer, and I mean that in ALL sincerity, he murdered 2 unarmed men that presented NO threat to him until HE went out and initiated the confrontation...

Horn is a fool and I hope they lock the bastard up for a long time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, he DID something, he committed MURDER&#8230;</p>
<p>I see your point on calling 911 <em>and then letting the police do their job</em>, calling 911 was the ONLY thing he did right, he didn&#8217;t allow theÂ police to do their job, he took the law into his own hands and he killed the guys&#8230;</p>
<p>Some folks think he&#8217;s a hero, but what he really is, is a murderer, and I mean that in ALL sincerity, he murdered 2 unarmed men that presented NO threat to him until HE went out and initiated the confrontation&#8230;</p>
<p>Horn is a fool and I hope they lock the bastard up for a long time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ablur</title>
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		<dc:creator>ablur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy is a nut.  He gives the gun taking left the reasons they need.  I have no tolerance for people like this.

He gave the DA all he needs to convict him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy is a nut.  He gives the gun taking left the reasons they need.  I have no tolerance for people like this.</p>
<p>He gave the DA all he needs to convict him.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloviating Zeppelin</title>
		<link>http://texasfred.net/archives/778/comment-page-1#comment-4977</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloviating Zeppelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, if you&#039;re stupid enough to call 911 and TELL the dispatcher that, from your point INSIDE your house, you&#039;re going to exit the house and &quot;KILL THEM,&quot; then you deserve what you get.  Just about every aspect of this incident stacks up against Horn.  What you&#039;ve likely got, at first blush, is an older man who refuses to listen to reason, TELLS the dispatcher he&#039;s going to kill the two men and then does it.  He even, at one point, ENSURED that the dispatcher HEARD the rack of the shotgun.  Only an idiot does that.  

Quite frankly, this has nothing to do with protecting property or being in fear of one&#039;s life -- and Horn went OUT OF HIS WAY to prove the OPPOSITE -- it has everything to do with validating what Leftists think of gun owners and portraying Horn as nothing more than a beer-drinking, wife-beating, stained-T-shirt-wearing ignoramus.  This Horn fellow doesn&#039;t have the brains God gave the average houseplant.

BZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, if you&#8217;re stupid enough to call 911 and TELL the dispatcher that, from your point INSIDE your house, you&#8217;re going to exit the house and &#8220;KILL THEM,&#8221; then you deserve what you get.  Just about every aspect of this incident stacks up against Horn.  What you&#8217;ve likely got, at first blush, is an older man who refuses to listen to reason, TELLS the dispatcher he&#8217;s going to kill the two men and then does it.  He even, at one point, ENSURED that the dispatcher HEARD the rack of the shotgun.  Only an idiot does that.  </p>
<p>Quite frankly, this has nothing to do with protecting property or being in fear of one&#8217;s life &#8212; and Horn went OUT OF HIS WAY to prove the OPPOSITE &#8212; it has everything to do with validating what Leftists think of gun owners and portraying Horn as nothing more than a beer-drinking, wife-beating, stained-T-shirt-wearing ignoramus.  This Horn fellow doesn&#8217;t have the brains God gave the average houseplant.</p>
<p>BZ</p>
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		<title>By: Ranando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horn, is one dumb fool.

Much will come out on this that we don&#039;t know. His mental state at the time, etc, etc.

Maybe he had a bad childhood, that always seems to work. Maybe he thought they were Catholic Priest from younger days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horn, is one dumb fool.</p>
<p>Much will come out on this that we don&#8217;t know. His mental state at the time, etc, etc.</p>
<p>Maybe he had a bad childhood, that always seems to work. Maybe he thought they were Catholic Priest from younger days.</p>
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