17 people hurt in Tuscaloosa, Ala., bar shooting
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP) - A gunman who opened fire outside a crowded bar has wounded 17 people in Tuscaloosa, the home of the University of Alabama.
Tuscaloosa Police Chief Steve Anderson told The Associated Press that the gunman fired first through a window, then shot at people outside as they fled the bar. He said the gunman never went inside during the assault early Tuesday.
Hospital spokesman Brad Fisher said 17 people were being treated at DCH Regional Medical Center
Four of the victims have been admitted to the hospital, and two of them were receiving critical care, Fisher said. It wasn’t immediately known whether all the injuries were from gunfire, he said.
Police were still searching for a suspect and released surveillance video of a man they called the suspect. SOURCE
Without a doubt there is some sort of ulterior motive that triggered (no pun intended) this event.
No SANE person does a thing like this, and until we can find a way to allow the Second Amendment to stand as written, AND to disallow the insane from owning or possessing guns, these things will happen from time to time.
Some will say, “But Fred, it is illegal for the insane, or people that are mentally unstable to own or possess guns”, and that is true, IF a person has been diagnosed and has a prior record of mental illness, but what do you do when there is NO prior record, or the person DOES have a record and still manages to get their hands on a gun?
The bleeding hearts, the Libbers, tree huggers and the like will tell you there is only one way to stop this sort of thing and that is to BAN ALL GUNS in this nation.
Ban ALL guns? Seriously, a gun ban is going to make it all just go away? The outlawing of ALL guns is going to stop a crazy person from getting a gun and doing such as this?
2 killed in shooting at Toronto outdoor party
TORONTO (AP) - An exchange of gunfire at a crowded outdoor party in Toronto killed two people late Monday and 22 others, including an infant, were injured by bullets and by trampling in the rush to flee.
“It is the most serious crime of its kind that has ever taken place in the city of Toronto,” said Police Chief Bill Blair.
Bullets from more than one gun sprayed into the crowd of more than 200 people, causing a panic.
Police said 19 people appeared to be wounded by gunfire, and three others were trampled.
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2 killed in shooting at Toronto outdoor party
Given the view of the Canadian on gun ownership, and all of the rules and regulations applied by the government to merely OWN and legally shot ANY firearm, guns, while not totally banned in Canada, are so restricted and regulated that gun violence is just not supposed to happen.
No average person is supposed to be walking the streets of Canada carrying a gun, NO ONE! Concealed carry for all is just not a concept the Canadians are going to allow.
So, if gun bans actually work, and if gun bans and serious restrictions will stop gun violence, this story couldn’t have actually happen. Could it?
How can there be a shooting that leaves 2 dead, IN CANADA, if guns aren’t allowed to be carried in anything other than the most restrictive set of rules imaginable?
Gun politics in Canada is largely polarized between two groups with opposing views. One group includes those who object to the registration of personal firearms and the other group includes those who believe in strict gun control.
Registration of firearms in Canada has been an issue since the 1930s when the registration of handguns became mandatory. Over the past few decades, legislation had become increasingly restrictive for firearm owners and from 1995 until 2012, all firearms were required to be registered. As of April 6, 2012 the registration of non-restricted firearms is no longer required in any province or territory, except for Quebec, pending litigation. Systematic auditing and criminalization of firearm owners and sports is implemented and enforced in most of Central Canada,[1][2] and to a lesser extent, in Western Canada (in most cases firearm ownership regulations vary slightly in different provinces and territories, where some provinces have decided to mandate their own laws, such as the Quebec Law 9 course, which is mandatory for all owners of restricted firearms).[3]
The Criminal Code of Canada provides recognition of self-defense with a firearm; The Firearms Act provides a legal framework wherein an individual may, acquire/possess and carry, a restricted or (a specific class of) prohibited firearm for protection from other individuals when police protection is deemed insufficient.[4] This situation is extremely rare, as evidenced by the fact that the (publicly available version of the) RCMP Authorization To Carry application[5] refers only to protection of life during employment that involves handling of valuable goods or dangerous wildlife. SOURCE
And that my friends pretty much explains WHY I don’t GO to Canada and would never LIVE in Canada.
Restrictions similar to this might be why my grandfather had the good sense to LEAVE Canada and migrate, LEGALLY, to Texas back in 1919. Just sayin’…
In the spirit of fairness, just to show folks that I am not picking on Canada, ask the fine folks of New York City and Washington, D.C. how effective their highly restrictive gun laws are.
Fred, I agree in principle, that crazy people should not have guns. But a problem I can anticipate is a government controlled psychiatric industry determining that anybody who wants a gun is paranoid by definition and is therefore crazy enough to prevent getting a gun.
I’m not sure what to do about it, but I remember when dissidents in Russia were locked up without trial because of “mental illness.” Couldn’t happen here, though. Right?
Keep your powder dry
That is a whole ‘nuther can of worms…
One of the reasons that Vets don’t go to the VA (or other facilities) to get help with mental problems is that they are automatically forbidden to have any firearms for the rest of their lives.
The truly mentally ill will not go to the hospital, will not get help, will get guns. And horrors like this will happen. And we will lose our guns. Anybody see the wrong in that?
I can hear the anointed one now, well once we completely BAN all firearms we will have no violence. We will only have crooks with guns, home invasions will increase because we have no guns, only the crooks will have guns.
We will turn into Mexico, if you did not know Mexico has a ban on guns. That’s why Juarez Mexico is the Murder CAPITOL of the world, because the citizens can’t defend themselves .
From My COLD DEAD HANDS!!!! Just Saying. Fred you know I will give my guns to
Hussein Obama!!!
You know I taught my son gun safety at age 6, he got his first buck at age 7, his 4-H shooting club won nationals in his age group, 9 years old. All I can say to Hussein Obama, GO F%*k yourself.