US soldier suspected of Afghan shooting spree

US soldier suspected of Afghan shooting spree

WASHINGTON (AP) – Senior U.S. officials were scrambling Sunday to determine what caused an American Army soldier to leave his base in southern Afghanistan and allegedly gun down as many as 16 Afghans in the early morning weekend hours.

Officials confirmed that the soldier was being detained in Kandahar and that the military was treating at least five wounded. One U.S. official said the soldier, an Army staff sergeant, was believed to have acted alone and that initial reports indicated he returned to the base after the shooting and turned himself in.

Gen. John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, issued a statement pledging a “rapid and thorough investigation” into the shooting spree, and said the soldier will remain in U.S. custody.

The shootings come at a particularly sensitive and critical time for the U.S., just as violence over the burning of Muslim holy books at a U.S. base was starting to calm down. And it could further fuel calls for a more rapid withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan. SOURCE

That was the 1st story I saw, then it was followed up by this;

US soldier kills 16 Afghans, deepening crisis

BALANDI, Afghanistan (AP) – An American soldier opened fire on villagers near his base in southern Afghanistan Sunday and killed 16 civilians, according to President Hamid Karzai who called it an “assassination” and furiously demanded an explanation from Washington. Nine children and three women were among the dead.

The killing spree deepened a crisis between U.S. forces and their Afghan hosts over Americans burning Muslim holy books on a base in Afghanistan last month. The burnings sparked weeks of violent protests and attacks that left some 30 dead. Six U.S. service members have been killed by their Afghan colleagues since the Quran burnings came to light, but the violence had just started to calm down.

“This is an assassination, an intentional killing of innocent civilians and cannot be forgiven,” Karzai said in a statement. He said he has repeatedly demanded the U.S. stop killing Afghan civilians.

The violence over the Quran burnings has spurred calls in the U.S. for a faster exit strategy from the 10-year-old Afghan war. President Barack Obama even said recently that “now is the time for us to transition.” But he also said he had no plan to change the current timetable that has Afghans taking control of security countrywide by the end of 2014. SOURCE

Here is what I see happening in the immediate future;

Hamid Karzai will continue to cry *assassination*, when what it actually is, if it DID happen as reported, is a mass murder.

Afghanistan will erupt in a gigantic wave of violence against American troops, more than the normal violence, perhaps more that that seen in the Quran burning incident.

Barack Hussein Obama will have Air Force One gassed up and will go on a world wide apology tour again, at OUR expense, and his lovely wife Mooch will follow in a separate plane with a full entourage of servants. Think about that, Obama and Mooch are simply brilliant, they can apologize to the world and take another vacation all at the same time. Multi-tasking at it’s very best.

Leon Panetta will consult the United Nations, given that he apparently believes the U.N. and their decisions trump those of the DoD, the U.S. Senate and Congress.


Hillary Clinton will express her outrage at this atrocity and the libber left will declare her to be the most wonderful Secretary of State ever.

There is a distinct possibility that we will see repercussions right here on American soil; Islamic activists are looking for a reason, ANY reason, to attack us here at home. This could give them the motivation needed to do so.

And then there is the U.S. soldier that allegedly committed this horrendous act.

Field Manual No. 22-51: Leaders’ Manual for Combat Stress Control: Booklet 1

Chapter 4: Combat Misconduct Stress Behaviors

Headquarters, Department of the Army, Washington, DC

4-10. The Misconduct Stress Behavior of Killing Noncombatants
a. Some incidents of mass execution of civilians (for example, those committed by Nazi Germany) are acts of deliberate policy and are outside the scope of this discussion. Others, like the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, although premeditated, are clearly reactions to cumulative combat stress. These misconduct stress behaviors are likely, especially in guerrilla warfare, when some seemingly noncombatants, such as women and children, are in fact un-uniformed combatants. Misconduct stress behavior is also likely when the sympathies of the civilian noncombatants have become suspect as they allow the soldiers’ buddies to be killed and mutilated by mines and booby traps which they themselves avoid.

b. Other examples of killing civilians may be impulsive, individual stress reactions or rage attacks: One soldier who has just seen his buddy killed impulsively shoots two children on a water buffalo. The hot, angry, frustrated soldier shoots the peasant who is shouting at him in a foreign language about trampling her vegetable garden. The fact is that overstressed human beings with loaded weapons are inherently dangerous.

Field Manual No. 22-51: Leaders’ Manual for Combat Stress Control: Combat Stress Behaviors: Chapter 4: Combat Misconduct Stress Behaviors

The field manual recognizes and defines the act, but what are the penalties faced by the soldier himself?

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice this soldier may very well be facing charges of capital murder, charges that will be heard in a Court Martial and if found guilty, could result in the execution of said soldier.

Sentencing and execution

Capital cases are tried in courts-martial before a panel of at least twelve military members. If the defendant is an enlisted service member, they may opt for at least one third of the panel to also be of enlisted rank. All members of the panel must outrank the accused. The defendant cannot plead guilty to the charges. The panel must be unanimous in conviction, that the government has proven necessary aggravating factors, that the aggravating factors outweigh the mitigating factors, and that death is the only sentence applicable. All death sentences are automatically appealed first to the Court of Criminal Appeals for the military service concerned, then to the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. The sentence must be personally confirmed by the President of the United States.

Military executions would be conducted under regulations issued on January 17, 2006, and would ordinarily take place at the Special Housing Unit of the United States Disciplinary Barracks, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, although alternative locations are possible (such as the Federal Correctional Complex, Terre Haute, where federal civilian death row inmates are housed and executed). Of five convicted servicemen awaiting execution, four are confined at the Special Housing Unit and one at Camp Lejeune, all of whom have been convicted of premeditated murder or felony murder.

Until 1961, the last military execution to date, hanging was the sole and official method. Later, the military introduced the electric chair, which was never used. Currently, lethal injection is the sole method. SOURCE

Personally, I have NO issue with the form of execution used, dead is dead and only a bleeding heart cares about the way a murderer is put to death, I am NOT a bleeding heart.

I am not saying that ANY of this is an ‘absolute’, there in an investigation that must take place before ANY action is taken, but you can bet the farm that the fact that even though NONE of this is a 100% certainty, it won’t stop the Muslim outrage.

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19 Responses to US soldier suspected of Afghan shooting spree

  1. TexasBrady says:

    You knowe Fred, better than most I will say, for that reason I will not say what I want, as I know I will be visited again by the “MEN IN BLACK”! As we know, the stress of combat comes in many faces, so I will NOT judge what happened until all of the facts are in. “If anyone is familiar “OBSESSION” you wil understand what I am saying. That said, “I DO NOT CONDONE” the arbitrary killing of innocent women or children, if this is the case, let it be known the SUSPECT will be dealt with swiftly and the punishment will be handed as well.

    However the RADICAL ISLAMIC MUSLIMS will not be satisfied, causing as Fred so eloquently said, President Obama and MOOCH, to once again at taxpayer expense to go on World Wide Apology Tour III.. As I said I in no way condone indiscriminate killing of anyone, much less children.

    I ask all of you to watch/purchase the movie OBCESSION, before rendering an objective verdict. Don’t use the documentary as anything but what it is, an objective tool for assisting rendering a fair and objective viewpoint. The radical Islamic jihadist are difficult clan to deal with as it is.

    Americans are not, that is why I believe a true verdict can’t be reached.

  2. Robert says:

    How bout this: Rumor has it the village the soldier killed those people in participated in bible burnings. The soldier being a good Christian man found this to be too much to handle and went off!. We will await the apology from Karzai explaining that bibles are not to burned…. waiting…. waiting…. Uh yeah. Not likely.

    Now I know that’s not what happened, but I’m thinking the soldier lost his mind due to what has transpired lately over there. And WHO could have predicted such problems? Well everyone who said DO NOT GIVE A TIME TABLE FOR WITHDRAWAL…

    The real facts will eventually come out but by then the lie will have been ingrained in the population. This may have well been a false flag op too. Nobody will know the truth before it’s all said and done. We must ask ourselves a couple questions:

    1. WHO benefits from an act such as this? Obama will if it leads to a early withdrawal because of these actions.. Win Win For the apologizer in chief…Karzai because he can state he rid the nation of the infidels…

    2 Do folks go crazy? Sure do and since the last couple weeks in Shitstainistan Soldiers are seeing they are getting ZERO support from their CIC. This breeds problems.

    There are a lot of unanswered questions about this story and since we know the media is slanted against Common Sense/America I’m skeptical about the entire thing. No longer can we “read and believe” we must “Read, questions and verify”….

  3. TexasFred says:

    There are 2 things that can be done in Afghanistan;

    1. Kill em all and take possession of the incredibly valuable minerals that are there in unbelievable abundance.

    2. Get the hell out and let them kill each other.

    We went to Afghanistan to exact some *PAY BACK* for 9-11 and to kill or capture Osama bin Laden.

    We have that *PAY BACK* and bin Laden is, supposedly, dead…

  4. Bluto says:

    Apparently the soldier didn’t have access to a pair of fueled-up Jumbo Jets or there might have been greater casualties.

  5. minuteman26 says:

    An incident such as this was bound to happen sooner or later considering the bizarre nature of the Afganistan conflict and the ROE the troops had to put up with. Our troops need to be brought home ASAP or turned loose to unleash the dogs of war on any muzzie bastard that threatens their safety.

  6. Katie says:

    Can we get a President who finally answers these inbred assholes with: So?

  7. sdkar says:

    I am sure that karzai will understand when obama explains to him that this was simply a matter of “workplace violence” during an “overseas contingency operation”. It’s that simple…nothing to get upset about at all.

  8. Just get out.

    It’s time to get out.

    Let all these Muslim Fuckheads kill each other.

    Stay out of their affairs.

    But continue to buy their oil whilst

    AT THE SAME TIME

    Drilling the LIVING SHIT out of EVERY potential oilhole we have in North America.

    Won’t do that?

    Then guess what, Mr Obama: you’ve doomed this country to VIOLENT REVOLUTION.

    And it’s coming, sir. I can hear it and feel it from here. . .

    BZ

    • TexasFred says:

      Karzai will last about as long as a fart in a windstorm, if we leave, he’s a dead man walking…

      You would think that he would know that, apparently not, no matter, we leave and Karzai becomes a greasy spot on the pavement…

      If Karzai goes, Afghanistan is back to square 1, a 7th century rabble that kill each other over a minor difference in religious ideology…

      All things considered, let the bastards kill each other…

      • Fred:

        Karzai IS a DEAD MAN WALKING!

        But here is the Power of Islam: he thinks he’s IMMUNE.

        “All things considered, let the bastards kill each other…”

        Finally I say: YES.

        BZ

  9. BobF says:

    I’m wondering what the Status of Forces Agreement is with Afghanistan? With the Sgt be brought back to the US to stand trial or turned over to the Afghans? When I was in Saudi Arabia back in early 80’s, we had no SOFA so any GI’s who committed crimes off base were turned over to the Saudi’s.

  10. Bunkerville says:

    Great post. Anyone want to bet the soldier in question will be sent to the Hague for trial? He will not see any U.S. military tribunal. Maybe just decapitated by our Afghan friends. Any bets?

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