Reason for Concern?? Speak your mind and let us know
July 26th, 2007 . by TexasFredIf it does, would you please spell out those reasons in comments, I know the fact that Mr. Abraham is a supporter of open borders gives me immediate pause, and I have got to get some definitive answers as to EXACTLY where Fred Thompson stands on our border issues and I have got to know EXACTLY what he plans to do about our borders and if having Mr. Abraham on board will make any difference IN those plans…
You’re Fred Thompson. As a former U.S. senator you had a pleasant and lucrative career acting in a tv show. Then an opening unexpectedly appeared in the contest for the GOP nomination, because there were no candidates acceptable to conservatives. The most important issue to conservatives was immigration. You made a few general statements indicating a readiness to enforce our country’s immigration laws and guard its borders. These comments immediately translated into significant popular support and turned you into a viable prospect for the Republican nomination, even though you had not formally declared your candidacy. Then you appointed as your campaign manager former U.S. senator Spencer Abraham from Michigan. Abraham is most famous as an arrogant open-borders fanatic in his work as chairman of the Senate immigration sub-committee in the late 1990s. He was so bad on immigration that in 2000 Michigan conservatives and Republicans voted for Spencer’s challenger, pro-abortion liberal Democrat Debbie Stabenow, in order to drive Spencer from the Senate. Abraham lost his Senate seat because of his commitment to open borders, pure and simple.
Full Article Here:
LP: Thompson picks Abraham [open borders fanatic]In my 2002 book Invasion (p. 71, 76), I noted the open-borders obstructionism of former Sen. Spencer Abraham (R-Michigan), who fought to block the implementation of two different tracking databases–one for foreign student visa holders and the other for all temporary visitors (which was mandated by Section 110 of the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act). Abraham led efforts to starve the first database of funding and crusaded several times to kill Section 110 altogether. On September 11, 2001, neither of those databases was in place. To this day, they remain incomplete.
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Fred Thompson and Spencer Abraham: Bad comboHe hasn’t entered the Presidential race yet, but Fred Thompson, yesterday, showed us why he’s the scariest Republican Presidential candidate. And maybe the scariest of both parties.
Don’t believe Thompson’s claim that he understands the Islamist jihadist threat to America. His announcement, yesterday, of his choice of Spencer Abraham as campaign manager, told us everything we need to know. Although Abraham, of Lebanese descent, is a Christian, he is a career water carrier for Islamists of the most extremist stripe and made that the cornerstone of his failed, one-term Senate career and equally lousy tenure as Energy Secretary.
Full Article Here:
Jihad Spence: Fred Thompson’s Pan-Islamist Campaign Manager
Edward Spencer Abraham (born June 12, 1952 in East Lansing, Michigan) is an a former United States Senator of Lebanese descent. He had served as the 10th United States Secretary of Energy, serving under President George W. Bush. In July of 2007, he was named Campaign Manager for GOP Presidential candidate Fred Thompson.[1]Full Profile Here:
Spencer Abraham - Wikipedia
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If I had known who Grover Norquist was in relation to Rove maybe I would have thought twice about GWB at the time too.
Not that I REALLY had any other options. ….
Why appoint the guy campaign manager if you have no use for his skills?
and his skills are islamofellating and open borders
just like Norquist
We dont want GWB redux, that’s for sure.
He’s for open borders and he worked for George W. Bush, that’s says alot to me.
I’m not saying that Thompson is not the man to be our next President. I’m just thinking that we all wanted a change, not the course Bush has put us on.
I really wanted Thompson to be his own man, his own people, his own views. Hiring Bush people scares me and tells me about his judgement.
I also feel that 14 or 15 months out is way too soon to back anyone 100%.
I want to support Thompson but I need more, I need answers to our countries problems.
I’m against open borders, period, so hiring Spencer Abraham is a big problem for me.
http://www.musalman.com/islamnews/ama_sen_abraham.html
AMERICAN MUSLIM ALLIANCE
From Strategic Thinking To Concrete Results
US Senator Spencer Abraham Applauds AMPCC’S Work; Promises to Help Change Secret Evidence Law
Dear Dr. Agha Saeed and the AMPCC:
I am pleased to send my sincere best wishes to you as you gather again
in California to coordinate efforts by the American Muslim Community. I
feel that your efforts are truly needed in the political arena and will
be very effective for the upcoming elections in the year 2000.
Each of you in attendance should be praised for your commitment to
building citizenship and facilitating broader democratic participation
in the American Muslim community. As the community nears 6 million, you
can truly make a difference in the political and policy arenas, and I
remain committed to helping you achieve that goal.
As I mentioned, it will be particularly important for the community to
be politically active in the federal, state and local 2000 elections. I
am proud to have worked with the community in the pass and will continue
to do so in the future. I plan to re-introduce my resolution on Islam
again this Congress, and will work closely with the Attorney General to
see that the issues of secret evidence and profiling do not impact our
community as they have in the past. I will actively pursue my request
for a postage stamp that commemorates Ramadan, as well as continue to
sponsor Iftar dinners on Capitol Hill. I will continue to educate my
colleagues on the Islamic traditions in order to dispel the negative
stereotypes that often occur as a result of misinformation. As always, I
remain committed to the immigration cause, despite partisan politics.
But I will need your help to continue these battles. My re-election
effort for 2000 is well underway and I need the support of the American
Muslim community on a national level. My campaign is strongly being
viewed by my opponents as a referendum on the power of communities such
as yours. Please help me prove that my opponents are wrong, and that we
will succeed. I will be travelling all across American to gain your
support and I hope that I can meet many of you.
Please accept my sincere best wishes for a successful weekend.
With best wishes.
Sincerely
Spencer Abraham
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“The future of the Islamic Free Market Institute will no doubt reach new heights under Saffuri’s strong leadership. ” Sen. Spencer Abraham, Michigan
http://www.islamicinstitute.org/aboutus.htm
I am still supporting Tancredeo although I have read some shit about him and the way he managed to stay out of Vietnam. But I do like his stance on illegal immigration and the fact that he has not just rolled over for Bush and the RINOs on fiscal issues.
I don’t think he stands a virgins chance in Bill Clinton’s bed of getting the nomination but if he did he might stand a chance to win..especially if Hillary gets the nomination and I figure she will because the left wing is behind her and so is MSM
I have been backing off the Fred wagon lately, not totally but I’m not putting signs in my yard yet for anyone.
Fred needs to answer some tough questions, he also needs to announce his intentions.
He needs to state his positions on the 3 major issues IMO.
Our LACK of Border integrity, the War on Jihadists, and our economic future.
and if he really intends to make a run he needs to include some crime reduction and/or criminal punishment plans.
This appointment of Abraham is troubling to say the least.
I’m definitely for protecting the border, but this country is so big I doubt I’ll be happy with any bill that comes out of Congress. That’s the nature of our Constitution: bias against legislation built in, unless it’s the most lukewarm, middle of the road bill possible.
No doubt Senator Thompson’s got his reasons for putting Mr. Abraham in this position, and I’m sure they’re well thought out. Senator Thompson can choose to be right all the time, but if he does, he’ll never, ever be President. Wish it wasn’t like that, but it just is, unless decide on having 4 or 5 smaller countries.
This does rather bother me. That being said, it doesn’t mean that Thompson also supports open borders, but why would he hire someone who doesn’t have the same stand as he does on issues? I’m kind of confused. :/
Oh, and being of Lebanese decent doesn’t mean much. So was my mom.
My man is still Duncan Hunter, Senator Thompson has not shown me anything yet. This newest selection for campaign manager is a bad omen. Looks like more of the same o, same o…..
Mr. Abraham is of Lebanese descent and is a Maronite Christian, like Brigitte Gabriel. However his record indicates that he is very pro Islam. We DON”T need people like that in our government.
I have been contemplating Thompson as a candidate but this appointment has me backing away from him, and I don’t see anything which can salvage that short of firing the guy.
I don’t know Fred, I’ve been coming across some uncomfortable information about him as of late, but I’m trying to not judge prematurely. I feel the man is too close to the Bush’s ways of doing things.
I’ve got some serious problems with another Globalist minded President and he apparently was a [Globalist] Council on Foreign Relations member while serving as a Senator. That’s all we need; more New World Order BS-The USA, the beacon of freedom… that ideology is killing our sovereignty.
This is the comment I just made on Fred Thompson’s blog:
Comment by TexasFred
2007-07-26 20:01:18
Many of my readers have been raking me over the coals about supporting Fred Thompson now that he’s named Spencer ‘Open Borders’ Abraham as his campaign manager and I have got to tell you, we NEED to hear something from Fred on the border issue, not some vague BS, we need some cold hard facts and opinions from him and we need to know exactly what he has in mind FOR the border issue, and if I hear so much as one word that sounds like a Tennessee 2-Step, I will be done as a Fred supporter… My post can be found HERE and it is an open post, your feelings on this matter are welcome…
Fred File – The Friends of Fred Thompson Blog
I don’t mess around people, I am tired of being screwed over by the likes of George Bush, I’ll be damned if I’ll support another like him…
This is a cause for concern. I also would like to know exactly where Fred stands on the border issue.
I got this from Gunz just now…
WorldNetDaily: Fred Thompson’s globalist pedigree
I think that Spencer Abraham was hired to run a campaign, not to help shape policy. So no, I don’t think Spence (who I abhorred as a senator) is a bad choice. He knows how to help campaigns win.
We know what Fred’s opinions on immigration, the War on Terror, and open borders are — at least, those of us who’ve listened to him when he subbed for Paul Harvey last winter. I don’t think we have much to worry about on that front.
When he hires Harry Reid to help him formulate his defense policies, THAT would raise my hackles in a serious way. Fred’s a smart guy; if he’s gonna run, he wants to win. If he thinks Spence’s campaign strategy can help him win, so be it. Perhaps Spence can redeem himself among Repubs in the process.
I have some cold hard facts. If you check out http://www.congressgrades.com, Thompson’s voting record is not much different than John McCain’s on immigration. It’s a little bit better, but not a whole lot. He has supported amnesty, cutting restrictions on companies that hire illegals, and for bills that helped import foreign workers. Not to mention his other moderate positions on minimum wage, campaign finance reform, he voted against impeaching Clinton.
I was a Fred supporter at first, but have long since jumped to Duncan Hunter, who has perfect ratings on every conservative issue. Hunter is one of those candidates that just need to get his position papers and etc. out and he’ll have a following. According to selectsmart.com 69% of voters’ issues and picture of an ideal candidate are with Duncan Hunter. He also won first place at some sort of evaluation by some organization in Iowa for who is the strongest on the most important conservative issues. I just heard that today and will be getting the details soon if I can find the source. He is a man that will unite conservatives if we just start talking about him.
Sigh…I’m currently stuck in the cesspool known as Michigan. Had not made up my mind about Thompson until I read this. He will not get my vote.
The appointment of Spencer Abraham as campaign manager for Fred Thompson’s campaign equates with a glass of ice water tossed into my unsuspecting face! Not only was it shocking, it chilled my ardor for Thompson!
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Initially I was VERY interested in FT coming into the race. Even though he is a longtime member of CFR that is not always negative.
But, when he brought Abraham in I was upset. Abraham is not just ok with open borders, he is strongly FOR it and works for it. This is scary. Plus Fred T did not have a good voting record while in congress on the illegal alien issue. I thought he might have had a change of perspective since then……………but when he wanted Abraham that makes me very nervous.
I do not want to vote again for someone who “says” they are for border security, like Bush said in many speeches in 2004, 05, 06, and 07 but did NOT mean one word of it. HE has done everything possible to keep those borders open.
IF I do not hear VERY convincing statements from FT for border security and enforcing current immigration law, and it must be clear that he has had a change of heart, then I will be off this bandwagon.
Too bad as I really think he is the most likely to whip Hillary.
On Secure Borders and Economic Security Submitted By: BS “The government could start by securing our nation’s borders. A sovereign nation that can’t do that is not a sovereign nation. This is secondarily an immigration issue. It’s primarily a national security issue. We were told twenty years ago if we produced a comprehensive solution, we’d solve the illegal immigration problem. Twelve million illegals later, we’re being told that same thing again. I don’t believe most Americans are as concerned about the 12 million that are here as they are about the next 12 million and the next 12 million after that. I think they’re thinking: “Prove you can secure the border and then people of good will can sit down and work out the rest of it, while protecting those folks who play by the rules.”" — Townhall.com May 14, 2007
And a whole bunch of other stuff Fred has said can be found here: Fred Thompson Candidate for President 2008 Economic Issues — FreedomWorks.org
And I am having a hard time finding ANYTHING really solid and totally definitive…
My ONLY question at this time is, what the hell are YOU going to do about it??
Well, I was hoping Hannity would ask him about Abraham, but as usual, too much softball goin’ on.
I’m still with Thompson. The appointment of Abraham does raise some concerns. However, just like the delay in announcing his candidacy, the appointment may be a shrewd and calculated move to broaden his potential base. Face it. True Conservatives are a minority in this country. If Fred is truly Conservative — which we may not know unless he is elected — he won’t appeal to a broad enough base to get elected.
We would all like to see the candidates just lay it out there as to their positions on all of the issues — but it won’t happen. They have to calculate the impact on votes. Once he gets past the Republican primary, he must have a broad enough appeal to beat Hilobamary. It is a fine line. His position statements and in fact all words that he speaks will be used for or against him in the general election. That election takes place in the electoral college — not the overall popular vote. He will have to reach into the coastal states and pick off a couple if he expects to win.
I still believe that he is the best bet the Republican party has to win the election and beat whoever the left nominates. I’m in it for the win. I may not like all of Fred’s positions or appointments — but I don’t like any of Hillary’s or Obama’s.
This gives me huge cause for concern. I have never been a single issue voter (I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat) but the illegal alien issue has come to dominate the political landscape in my mind.
I have also thought I could heartily support Fred Thompson but that was when I was reasonably sure he wouldn’t pull a Bush and sell us down the river to Mexico. This is right up there, maybe worse, with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger calling for “comprehensive immigration reform” which is nothing more than code words for “amnesty”.
Duncan Hunter was my first choice for our next President initially but I came to believe that Fred Thompson was a better rounded choice. But take this to heart, I will drop Thompson like a hot rock if he follows in Bush’s footsteps and tries to open our borders to every third world national willing to work for sub standard wages and who has no interest in integrating into American society.
I have always believed that Americas immigrant history is primarily responsible for us being such a dynamic country. But that is due to legal immigration by people who want to become Americans, not people who want to remake our country into the image of whatever thir world hell hole they came from.
I am one American that is sick to death of having to watch my life here in Southern California erode and crumble day by day before my very eyes. I hope that Fred Thompon is paying damned close attention to this.
Rico J. Halo
At this point I’m as much for Thompson as anybody out there, but I’ve been reticent to jump on the bandwagon before I know what all he’s going to stand for…I’m taking a wait and see attitude and in the meantime, it probably would be a good idea to let him know what we think about the borders and illegal immigration. He needs to get used to a little heat, maybe.
I’ve been a supporter of Fred Thompson. However, IF Spencer Abraham is for open borders and IF he is an apologist for Muslims and Islamists, this will be the end of Thompson’s campaign, before it gets started. No conservative I know would vote for anyone who chooses an Islamic lover to run his campaign. He’s toast, if this is true. I don’t know it for a fact yet, but I’m looking for some answers. I’ve sent a letter to Thompson and I’m trying to reach Marsha Blackburn’s office to see what she can find out.
How could anyone know where Fred really stood after reading the Washington Post today about his legal cases. He was such a dedicated lawyer he took a vacation in Europe and missed a trial date which infuriated the judge. We know he was a lobbyist for a pro-choice group before he wasn’t except the billing records turned up so he had to back off again and spin like Clinton. He was a Nixon mole. Now he is maybe a candidate but now the date might slip to October because fundraising is going poorly for one reason.
Staffers are leaving his campaign because they don’t get along with his wife who is running everything including hiring?
Excuse me but how anyone could support him with what is already out is beyond me. If you want to support someone who you consider very conservative there are plenty of candidates who have been working out there to get elected and not sending out one email to get his followers stired up that the water is WARM . This wannabe candidate didn’t earn the reputation for being a lazy Senator for nothing.
Time for some of you to face the truth — you are systematically being had by the likes of Matalin, Tim Griffin (Rove’s guy), Cheney’s daughter, and the rest of the inside the beltway gang. Now throw in Spencer Abraham an old buddy from the Senate and you can say puppet of the WH.
Put some dignity back in the race and support candidates that declared no matter who it is instead of playing around with someone who obviously doesn’t have the fire in the belly to run.
Think about it!
I believe people sometimes get a little paranoid. I hope Fred Thompson is just like any other successful leader. You hire or get the people you need to get the job done. The team you need to win a campaign will not be the same team you need to fill the cabinet and administrative posts.
I hope he paying both Spencer Abraham and Randy Enright well to be his campaign managers. Abraham is not a little leaguer: for all you border line libertarians, he is a Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institution, an conservative think tank at Stanford University. He served as U.S. Energy Secretary, as a US Senator from Michigan, chairman of the Michigan Republican Party for 7 years, deputy chief of staff for Vice President Dan Quayle and co-chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC). And before he was elected Senator, he was a law professor. And did I mention he attended Harvard for his law degree and graduated with honors from Michigan State Univ. Oh - did I mention he is married with to Jane Abraham mother of three children who is also a political expert and currently Vice Chair of the Michigan Republican Party, General Chairman of the Susan B. Anthony List - a pro-life activist group with over with over 100,000 members and is the Founder and President of her own strategic marketing business called Abraham Strategies. Sound like Fred may have acquired the whole state of Michigan and a lot of right-to-life supporters.
Now in basic terms, I hire the car mechanic that can best fix my car — I can only hope that I find one that agrees with me on “everything” that I believe. I assure you that in over 22 years of military service that I carried out my duties faithfully even when the people over me and under me did not have the same beliefs or even the same political viewpoint. As a professor, I found many of my fellow professor not in agree with my philosophy on life, taxes, etc. but that did not stop me from co-authoring a paper or appearing together on stage to talk about “widgets.”
Everyone needs to get a grip on reality. I suggest that conservatives and not so conservative Republicans go into their bathrooms and look in the mirror and ask the following questions: Do I want any of the top three liberal Democrat contenders to be my next president? Can I personally run for office and beat the Democrat candidate? Assuming you answered “no” to both of your questions and since there is no perfect human this side of heaven, which Republican candidate most closely aligns with my beliefs and can WIN! Win! Win! Then get out there and work to keep a liberal Democrat from taking control of the White House.
I have not been a staunch supporter of any candidate. Although I have been leaning hard toward Thompson as of late. He did seem to be a great possibility.
This news of Abraham I find to be quite disturbing.
I feel as if I have been slapped in the face with a cold wet fish.
I’ve not really jumped on the Thompson band wagon. I’m burnt out with all politicians of all stripes. They promise the world to get elected and then after they’re elected they don’t know you and all of them do this.
I don’t know this Abraham from a hole in the ground and from the sound of it I don’t want to know him!
I’m not voting for anyone who doesn’t support stopping the ‘illegals’ and I’m damn sure not voting for anyone who wants to make ‘kissy’ face with the Muslims.
If this Abraham is going to be the campaign manager for Thompson you can bet he’ll want some position in a Thompson administration, if Thompson were elected. With that in my mind, no way would I vote for Thompson!
hot potato, drop the guy.
The selection of Abraham is concerning. At this point, it is still a bit too early for me to get solidly behind any candidate yet. So much can happen and can come out. I’ll hold off passing judgement until we know exactly why Fred made this selection. No need to jump to conclusions. Hopefully, he will answer TexasFred’s post on the blog.
How - exactly - will Fred secure the borders and how will he further fight the War on Terror - big issues with me.
Still looking at Tancredo and Hunter, too - but hoping Gingrich jumps in the race.
I want a candidate who is 100% sold out for the United States of America.
I want a candidate who looks to surround himself with people 100% sold out for the United States of America.
I want a candidate who leads knowing the perspective and sacrifice of the founders of the United States of America.
I want a candidate who seeks NO opinions from foreign powers and looks to the people of the United States of America.
I want a candidate who knows and sees the best nation in the world and wishes to keep it so, as the United States of America.
Any faultier that does not lead me to the conclusion that it is best for the United States of America, should be scorned and driven out. We are electing the President of the United States of America and we need to keep our eye on the ball.
Heya Fred.. Great post.
In short..
As a Fred support in these early days of GOP madness. I have to say I am not concerned with this development at all.
Spencer Abraham, no way in Hell, Fred Thompson….
Fred Thompson has been my favorite for President in the 2008 election, until now. If what I’m hearing about Spencer Abraham, Thompson’s new campaign manager, then Fred’s campaign is dead in the water. Spencer Abraham, according to reports, is a…
Fred,
Great post with informative links. I have never been a Fred Thompson supporter. I don’t really know enough about him despite efforts to change that fact. However I do know about Spencer Abraham, most of which is already recounted above. My initial thought was “campaign manager as opposed to political strategist or policy advisor? Okay.” However. usually campaign managers of successful candidates remain in the inner circle. Can you immagine the potential damage to this country if Abraham ended up as Chief of Staff to a President Thompson?
It chills me to even think of it.
This certainly gives me great concern.
Is this a political trade off to gain more voters? Or does it reflect how Fred feels?
My very first choice for President 2008 is Newt Gingrich, but this country doesn’t appreciate a mild mannered, college professor, candidate. Newt is convincing and very knowledgeable. He may be the only Republican candidate who would get Democratic voters.
But he is not forceful enough for these times. People look for “sound bites”. He’d make a good Diplomat.
Next was Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson. Both are feisty, provide good sound bites and cause people to sit up and listen.
Fred Thompson seemed, to me, more Reagan-like than Rudy.
So he was my choice. We need another Reagan.
Maybe this was just wishful thinking on my part.
Fred’s choice of Spencer Abraham as campaign manager is unsettling at the least.
I’m afraid that if a good explanation, or reversal of hiring and an explanation, isn’t forthcoming in the next couple of days I am going to go Candidate shopping again.
Ed
PA Pundits
Ed,
If you do go candidate shopping, I understand the John McCain store is open 24/7
Brad.. I am LMAO… McCain will NOT get elected as DOG CATCHER… You know I like you but damn man, why are you wasting your time on this BROKE loser??
On the one hand, I can see why everyone is extremely wary… the stampede of RINO’s in recent years has the party justifiably edgy. On the other hand, the insta-panic over every hit piece that comes out is extremely tiresome.
Abraham is in as his campaign manager… not his running mate.
I am having second thoughts now after this latest development. I WILL NOT vote for someone who is not going to do the anything about the illegal immigration problem that has been ruining this country. I guess I’m going to have to do some more research and and I am hoping that Fred Thompson will come out and give us some straight answers or I’m going to have to go with someone else.
But, since 9/11, Abraham continued a controversial UN-sponsored program allowing foreign visitors from countries on the State Department terrorist list to tour U.S. nuclear reactors. A course sponsored by the UN International Atomic Energy Agency, taught by U.S. nuclear weapons lab security personnel, gives tours of Nuclear Regulatory Commission facilities and teaches participants from 57 countries-including Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia-security techniques employed at American nuclear sites. “They were teaching them to black out systems, which they could use against us at labs,” an official told a popular newssite. This was reported on extensively by investigative reporter Paul Sperry, author of “Infiltration.”
Debbie Schlussel
Fred, if Abraham stays, you’ve lost mine and 5 family members’ votes. No two ways about it.
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I am so very disappointed in Abraham’s appointment. I will not vote for Thompson with Abraham involved with him. He is for open borders, which I strongly oppose, and has too many ties to Islamists, which is too dangerous to describe.
Until Fred appointed Abraham, I was delighted that he was considering running, and planned to support him, but no way with Abraham. I have just emailed many would-be supporters with the news, and he will lose their votes too. Maybe the power of the internet can change his mind too. Time will tell. And now the choice is???????????? None of the above.
I’m a Democrat… by birth. A one time Yellow Dog Democrat, I am now a DINO… and Jew. My hope was with Fred Thompson.
I firmly believe we need a clear spoken man… a great communicator and FT fits that bill, but the Abraham hire will keep me from writing a check to his campaign. I still think Thompson is his own man and Abraham’s influence would be softened, but having him that close to the center of things does give me grave reasons for concern.
I won’t be voting in a Republican primary, and there is not a Democrat in the race I would vote for, so if he wins the nomination I’ll likely vote Thompson in November next year… but it won’t be a vote I’d feel great about, unless he can ease my mind on Abraham’s importance.
I know that most of the folks here are behind Fred Thompson. I am not, to state it as simply as I can.
McCain / Feingold is reason enough for me. I am sick and tired of people that compromise away our rights. He has had a few other votes in the past that I simply refuse to stomach as well. The Gun Owners of America website has a complete evaluation of all of the candidates.
As for the border thing, and Abraham? More indecisiveness is not what is needed. More alliances with an ally of the invaders is not what we need.
And Brad hit this one out of the park… That is exactly what my biggest concern is, it’s called politics, and Fred T will play them to some extent, he’s a politician after all…
And the REALLY scary part about Abraham is, everyone is saying, “Oh, he’s just there to help Fred WIN”, and he may well be, but his mere presence has already cost Fred T a great deal of support, and no one knows until Fred T is elected if he will appoint Abraham to some high powered position in his staff or possibly to a cabinet position, and at that time, it’s too damn late, we’re stuck with an open border supporter on the presidents cabinet…
I know that’s a stretch at this point, but it IS a very real possibility…
I have been strongly supportive of Fred Thompson because I think he can
out-debate H. Clinton, and took a strong stand again Amnesty. I am now 99% ready to turn my back on Thompson. I offer him one last scenario, that would allow me to continue to back him. (1) He should agree now to embrace Duncan Hunter as V.P. candidate prior to the Convention. (2) He should come out for release of Ramos & Campean after 6 months are served. (3) He should agree to build the 854 mile fence in his first year, (4) and to deport anybody in the country for less than two years. No plan for amnesty without intense study, and working employer sanctions. All this because of the Spencer mistake. The clock will be ticking for 30 days before I put him in the JORGE BOOSH category for good!
Allan S., I totally concur, I am in a waiting pattern and I am not known as the most patient man in Texas either…
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