H.R. 645: National Emergency Center, Text of Legislation, Introduced in House
HR 645 IH
111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 645
To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 22, 2009
Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concernedFull Bill Here:
H.R. 645: Text of Legislation, Introduced in House
OK, all through the Bush-Cheney administration, the loons on the left cried and moaned about the re-education camps that Cheney was having built so that they, the loons on the left, could be rounded up and taken to them and be forced to endure whatever type of tortuous re-education that The EVIL Cheney had in store for them.
Obviously, that never happened.
I received, via email, a plea to fight this bill, and I am not so sure that’s what needs to be done at this point in time.
What we have here before us now is a bill that proposes National Emergency Centers. After reading the text of this bill I am sure that this bill, like any other piece of legislation or law on the books in this nation, could be misused, wrongly interpreted or misapplied for vile and evil purposes.
But let me ask all of you this, in the event of a MASSIVE national emergency, just where are you going to turn other than a National Emergency Center?
I know that there are those among us that are survivalists. They have stockpiles of food, water and arms. They have skills and believe that they could survive off of the land and defend their piece of fortified land against all that tried to take them off of it. Maybe they can.
What about older Americans? What about sick and/or disabled folks? What about those with serious heart problems or diabetes for instance? What do they do? The heat or cold, depending on the season, is going to kill them. They aren’t physically able to fend for themselves in the wild. If you’re an insulin dependent diabetic, and you’re without power and the ability to keep your insulin COLD it will spoil and you are going to DIE once the ketoacidosis sets in, and that is a painful way to go. Cancer patients, dialysis patients, where else do they turn? Are they not supposed to expect that their GENERAL WELFARE should still be a part of their life?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Let’s not start going off like the libtards with all of their maniacal conspiracy theories. Be ever vigilant, certainly, but don’t allow yourself to be consumed by fear. This may bear watching, but it is the DUTY of the FEDERAL government to adhere to the words written above. If they choose to do differently, then we deal with the reality that faces us.
Maybe I am too trusting in the military and police of this nation, maybe not, see Oath Keepers, but I do NOT believe that U.S. troops or American police would take up arms against their brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers and force anyone into internment camps as some seem to believe.
If the readers want to stand against this bill on principle, by all means, do so, but in my opinion we don’t need to automatically assume the worst. We should prepare FOR the worst, always, but the conspiracy theory stuff makes us ALL look bad.
When I first started using the internet I was really naive. I went to one site and it scared me to death. Thank God my husband explained it all to me. It was the end of the world. The govt was going to eat our kids.
I can’t see our military or the police force ever turning against us. For one thing I was in the Navy. We weren’t just fighting for our Country but for the people in it. Our neighbors, relatives, Sr. citizens …… I couldn’t imagine this country getting that bad. Americans have the biggest hearts in the world. We are the most loving, caring and forgiving individuals on this earth. Sometimes we are way to Loving, caring and forgiving.
You are right though, we need to sleep with one eye open.
The problem, as I see it, is that this is just another scheme to fleece the American public and misuse our tax dollars, not to mention another pretense to increase taxation of our Nation. And as usual, they are using fear-mongering to do it.
As for the shelters, I don’t see why we can’t take care of our own. I will not be running to any shelter and I sure as hell won’t trust the government to safe guard my loved ones. I will see to the care of my aged or unwell myself and expect all of the able bodied to do the same.
Of course, I respect the freedom of others to do what they need to do if they choose of their own free will to turn to the government or others to provide what they can not, such as insulin, I’m not real sure where to find that in the wild.
And where else DO they turn Vincent?? You got a spare generator plant and a refrigerator to keep insulin cold or to fire up dialysis machines?? For the several million that will need it??
How about cancers treatments?? What about old folks that are going to melt in TEXAS heat??
Do WE, The PEOPLE possess that kind of stroke? NO, we don’t.
20 years ago I would have hit the woods and dared anyone to try and find me, and I would have eaten well, as would my family, that was then… Some folks better think about those that CAN’T hit the woods any more…
Insulin in the wild is NOT the only issue…
All good points to consider.
However, let’s also ensure we consider the real life experiences from a post-Katrina situation by those who enjoyed the hospitality of government rescuers. Has anything changed to say similar experiences in a National Emergency Center, FEMA camp, military installation, etc. would not recur?
If you must go to a government center in an emergency expect a TSA-like, boarding an airplane, experience before you are ever admitted. Obviously, that is preferable to dying. However, I would carefully consider the risks and opportunities and make your decisions accordingly.
People don’t realize that the aftermath of Katrina would have been much worse had it not been for preparation by the US Military.
Days before Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, NORTHCOM Commander, Adm. Timothy J. Keating approved the use of bases in Meridien, MS, and Barksdale, LA, to pre-position emergency meals and medical equipment. Before landfall, Adm. Keating sent military officers to Mississippi and Louisiana to coordinate with counterparts from FEMA. Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England ordered the movement of ships into the Gulf. These Pentagon initiatives were carried out without any formal request from FEMA or other authorities.
JTF Katrina
I would never worry about our military or our local law enforcement turning on the American People. It’s the Federal agencies that that concern me.
Fred glad to read some level headed thinking concerning this subject.
TF, you’ve made a logical and rational point. There is not necessarily a monster behind every federal door. You simply have to use common sense to evaluate what is extant. I submit that you can always count on your local law enforcement and your American military. As BobF points out, I believe it is the CIVILIAN side with which you must be concerned, where control of cash is predominant.
BZ
I am so damned old, I can actually remember when this conversation would have had Americans aghast at the distrust of our beloved country’s leaders! However, having lived all these years, and watched the deterioration of our government, I certainly can understand why folks would be suspicious of this sort of proposal.
Again, methinks Reagan had it right: “TRUST… BUT… VERIFY!”
JDL
Check this one out (two stories here) “Prison Commentary” and “Mystery Prison Buses in the Desert”
Storm’n Norm’n: Prison Commentary
Norm
Here’ s another: Can YOU think of an attention grabbing headline? We need one here!
New Legislation Authorizes FEMA Camps in U. S.
Norm
Two stories here: A Glimpse At History And A Prediction
scroll down to “Life With Big Brother”
Norm
Tell me that when you get to a National Emergency Shelter you won’t have to declare and surrender all weapons right down to pocket knives.
ASM, no one said you wouldn’t… The average citizen will be disarmed in those Shelters, and all things considered, might not be a bad idea…
Do we need gunfights there?? If we’re that afraid of the government, NOW would be a really good time to displace that government…
Here is my problem with this. It appears that you could be forced to go to one of these places. I have no problem with the government doing something along these lines. But, they need to be voluntary in attending or use. Not forced.
Ref:”Here is my problem with this. It appears that you could be forced to go to one of these places. I have no problem with the government doing something along these lines. But, they need to be voluntary in attending or use. Not forced.”
You have no problem with the government doing something along these lines. What country are you from? You got to be insane to even have the thought pass your mind! And who in their right mind would want to volunteer to enter a barbed wire compound? Didn’t a guy by the name of Hitler round up people under false pretenses and put them behind barbed wire fences…Patrick Sperry, what are you thinking?
Let me explain something real simple…the only way the government is going to get anyone into one of these places is by force.
WhoBeen;
Barbed wire..? Perhaps to keep a few things safe, but not people. Here’s the thing. Not everyone is capable of providing for themselves for whatever reason. Hell, you could be a victim of whatever disaster and badly injured so it could easily be you. As noted by Fred, the “General Welfare” is a legitimate concern of government. Having worked in Emergency Services most of my adult life I am more than aware of just badly things can go. That, is just one way that people might end up in one of those places. So it’s not at all that simple. People may have no other alternative through no fault of their own. In other words, shit happens.
Having said all that, I have no plans of going to one, forced or otherwise. We are stocked up on any supplies that we might need, plus a lot of things that we only “may” need, like antibiotics as an example. One can never have enough ammo, but that is being addressed on a regular basis. Not to mention more than a few extra toys that any group of bad boys hell bent on screwing with me or mine would not enjoy having used on them.
Oh, and don’t let me forget WhoBeen, have a nice day. Attitude is everything…