U.S. Widens Role in Mexican Fight
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has expanded its role in Mexico’s fight against organized crime by allowing the Mexican police to stage cross-border drug raids from inside the United States, according to senior administration and military officials.
Mexican commandos have discreetly traveled to the United States, assembled at designated areas and dispatched helicopter missions back across the border aimed at suspected drug traffickers. The Drug Enforcement Administration provides logistical support on the American side of the border, officials said, arranging staging areas and sharing intelligence that helps guide Mexico’s decisions about targets and tactics.
Officials said these so-called boomerang operations were intended to evade the surveillance — and corrupting influences — of the criminal organizations that closely monitor the movements of security forces inside Mexico. And they said the efforts were meant to provide settings with tight security for American and Mexican law enforcement officers to collaborate in their pursuit of criminals who operate on both sides of the border.
Although the operations remain rare, they are part of a broadening American campaign aimed at blunting the power of Mexican cartels that have built criminal networks spanning the world and have started a wave of violence in Mexico that has left more than 35,000 people dead.
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U.S. Widens Role in Mexico’s Fight Against Crime
When The New York Times comes out with a story like this it speaks volumes about the effectiveness of the Obama administration and the lack of any effort being put forth to secure THIS nation!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have never done one thing in my entire life that could even be remotely called *Un-American*, but some are going to think otherwise after this post. After this post I am certain that the Obama regime will label me an anti-American that makes threats against the President.
I am NOT making threats, not in ANY way; what I am doing is stating the obvious and saying what it appears that many Americans are to cowardly to say!
Barack Hussein Obama and Eric Holder must be removed from power!
These despicable cretins have now allowed the United States to be invaded, not just by ILLEGAL immigrants, no, now they have ALLOWED, and it seems that possibly they have encouraged the Mexican police and military to operate on U.S. soil.
I don’t care how *RARE* these operation may be, you do NOT allow Mexican police and/or Mexican commandos to operate on U.S. soil; this is a violation of everything we as Americans hold as beliefs in our hearts! This is a violation of American sovereignty and goes against everything American patriots stand for and believe in!
Many aspects of the campaign remain secret, because of legal and political sensitivities. But in recent months, details have begun to emerge, revealing efforts that would have been unthinkable five years ago. Mexico’s president, Felipe Calderon, who was elected in 2006, has broken with his country’s historic suspicion of the United States and has enlisted Washington’s help in defeating the cartels, a central priority for his government.
Legal and political sensitivities? If this is being kept *secret* because of LEGAL concerns and sensitivities, that line, in and of itself substantiates everything I have just posted above.
American Predator and Global Hawk drones now fly deep over Mexico to capture video of drug production facilities and smuggling routes. Manned American aircraft fly over Mexican targets to eavesdrop on cellphone communications. And the D.E.A. has set up an intelligence outpost — staffed by Central Intelligence Agency operatives and retired American military personnel — on a Mexican military base.
If the DEA and CIA are operating on Mexican soil, with the permission of the Mexican government, at their request, that doesn’t bother me, that is what the DEA and CIA do, and have done for years.
For Mexican forces to be operating here, on U.S. soil, in ANY capacity, that is wrong.
We have seen the effects of lax border enforcement, we have seen the effects of an out of control Department of Justice and BATFE as they implemented, and then lost control of Operation Fast and Furious; am I the only one that sees the possibilities for graft, corruption, misuse and loss of American lives and sovereignty in an operation of this manner?
“There has always been a willingness and desire on the part of the United States to play more of a role in Mexico’s efforts,” said Eric L. Olson, an expert on Mexico at the Woodrow Wilson Center. “But there have been some groundbreaking developments on the Mexican side where we’re seeing officials who are willing to take some risks, even political risks, by working closely with the United States to carry out very sensitive missions.”
Eric L. Olson is an expert on Mexico? Great, what does he know about American patriots and OUR beliefs regarding Mexican Special Forces operating on U.S. soil? Little or nothing I am sure.
Still, the cooperation remains a source of political tensions, especially in Mexico where the political classes have been leery of the United States dating from the Mexican-American War of 1846. Recent disclosures about the expanding United States’ role in the country’s main national security efforts have set off a storm of angry assertions that Mr. Calderon has put his own political interests ahead of Mexican sovereignty. Mr. Calderon’s political party faces an election next year that is viewed in part as a referendum on his decision to roll out this campaign against drug traffickers.
Mexicans are worried about Mexican sovereignty but U.S. authorities are NOT concerned with OUR sovereignty?
“The cartels don’t expect Mexican police coming from the U.S.,” said one senior military official. None of the officials interviewed about the boomerang operations would speak publicly about them, and refused to provide details about where they were conducted or what criminal organizations had been singled out.
This may come as a surprise, at least for some; Americans don’t expect Mexican police coming from the U.S. either!
This story has me angry beyond angry, there is more from the original source but I am not going to post it, folks can read it at the link above, I am going to be astounded if American patriots, Second Amendment and Tenth Amendment supporters don’t get as upset about this as I am!
Well damn. I have some mixed emotions about this… We have a problem with Mexicans/Others crossing our border with whatever they want. Our Government is doing nothing except suing those who want to stop it.
IF the Mexican Commando’s need a place to launch from to get those murdering POS’s, one part of me says Okay fine, do what you gotta do. The other part says “Why do you need to do it from OUR nation?” Why the hell did you let the criminals chase you out of your country? That’s a sad state of affairs and it should concern EVERYONE In AMERICA.
As I’ve stated many times, let me be in charge of H.S. for about a week… Nothing would move from that side of the border and all signs warning AMERICANS not to travel ON AMERICAN SOIL WOULD BE REMOVED…
This particular infractions on our nation is more typical of our MORON IN CHIEF’S views than the exception. IF we don’t correct the direction of our nation in 2012, it’s over folks. Stick a fork in America, right now it’s on life support with Obama having his hand on the plug.
I have NO mixed emotions, of ANY kind… SCREW Mexico and the sorry SOB that gave this an OK… It’s all about American sovereignty, and when a foreign military or police force are operating, in ANY WAY, on American soil, the door has now been opened to allow the United Nations to have troops operating on OUR streets and enforcing GLOBAL LAWS on American people…
Buy more ammo. Will need it soon.
I guess where my “Mixed Emotions” come from is: IF the Mexicans decide they are going to fix the mess they let happen and need a staging ground, I’d be okay with it. We train/equip/support other nations securing their border maybe we should help one secure ours… Under some extremely tight rules this could be a good thing. IF it’s handled by Obama and his cronies I don’t trust it at all. And YES that’s the problem. I don’t trust them, you don’t trust them and YES our mistrust of them allows us to see the very worst possible thing regarding UN or opening the doors..
IF the Mexicans and US decided to work together to seal our borders and FIX the cartel issue it would require us to share some intel and space. IF that’s what’s happening fine. IF it’s not and it’s being used to support them only then I have a real problem with it..
Foreign troops, on US soil, planning and executing missions in Mexico is WRONG and there is NO WAY to say it otherwise…
Wonder how fast the DHS would put up signs to warn us if those Mexican commando’s decided to come the other direction?
I’m thinking “buy More Ammo” is a good suggestion.
“…the door has now been opened to allow the United Nations to have troops operating on OUR streets and enforcing GLOBAL LAWS on American people…”
That says it all, Fred. Great post!
Indeed, but some folks just aren’t seeing the potential ramifications…
I’m going to have to think about this one for a while…. Times up!
On the face of it, this looks promising, and might even work.
However, the devil is always in the details; This is giving up American sovereignty, period. That folks, is simply unacceptable. They need to pull this off from their own soil, not from ours.
I don’t need to go any further. Nothing else really needs to be said…
I am stocked up, and roll my own with supplies for 2K more rounds.
Since I live near the border, and have had friends/acquaintances be impacted negatively by the drug cartels and their murderous ways, I’m like Robert at 1st impression - which lasts about 1.5 milliseconds.
We are a nation of LAWS and of course, our laws are subject to judicial interpretation. That is our constitutional way. Sadly, at times, interpretation uses the concept of “precedent” and that being the case, Fred is correct, this establishes a PRECEDENT in re: Allowing UN Forces to base themselves on US soil.
WTF - Not only no, but hell no folks.
Hell no indeed…
Fred and Robert,
There is absolutely NO WAY ON EARTH that commandos be allowed in our Country to do any kind of Police Action. Number one they have no jurisdiction. Number 2 you have NO idea that they are who they say they are. Thee cartel is famous for boating across and snatching people. I will tell you this the Mexican have encroached our airspace more than once to do their whatever they are doing. US authorities do not like these guys. It’s a credibility issue. What is going to happen sooner than later. They are going to get lit up by a sidewinder missile. Then watch the shit hit the fan.
Do you think Mexico would tolerate us invading their airspace. NO!
Obama and Holder know what’s up. It’s Plausible Deniability…period.
You can Google it and read it for yourself.
Later guys
Fred, I have no problem with foreign troops being stationed on American soil in certain capacities — and before you have another “WTF moment” allow me quickly to explain. We have trainees from other nations (including even Pakistan) who are stationed on American posts and bases as a regular courtesy. Most of them are either in training or are receiving “special advanced information.”
What we have not had since the war of 1812 is foreign troops stationed on American soil for the purpose of carrying out some mission that is not a part of an American operation. These are totally distinct concepts. Look, American operation with foreign adjuncts and a foreign operation. See the difference?
If the federales would like to send a few of their best and brightest to be stationed at a border patrol camp, no problema Jose. The can learn something maybe — assuming our border patrol still has the audacity needed to teach how to place the front sight on the target, the stock in the pocket, and squeeze.
Give me a break. We are the world’s only superpower and we need to have the Mexican federales help us like a third world dictatorship? Give me a break!
If I’ve offended some sensitivities, I can’t really bring myself to say “I’m sorry.”
Keep your powder dry
Texasperated — I have been a part OF that training of troops on American soil, and I totally agree, apples and oranges… We engaged in a lot of training exercises in El Paso some 30 years ago, but NONE of those trained were going to be launching operations from American soil, that’s the part Rob doesn’t get…
The violation of American sovereignty and the unprecedented *invitation* to the United Nations that this sends is just unbelievable…
And you never have to apologize for being right…
You, me, every comment maker in this thread is looking at this through eyes that are, or have been, soldiers, LEOs, Intel Officers, some of the above, all of the above or any combination OF the above… I am convinced that is why WE see it in a different light…
If the Mexicans need/want our help with THEIR CRIMINAL CITIZENS which have illeglly entered OUR COUNTRY-FINE (It’s called “shared intelligence”). Give us ALL the good, CREDIBLE intel and let US Police and US Military take care of it from there. IF we need their help (it would ONLY BE TO ID THE BODIES WE SEND BACK!!!)
We don’t need to ID no stinkin’ bodies…
Leave em where they drop, buzzards and other critters gotta eat too..