Post-9/11 tradeoff: Security vs. civil liberties

Post-9/11 tradeoff: Security vs. civil liberties

NEW YORK (AP) – In the early months after the 9/11 terror attacks, America’s visceral reaction was to gird for a relentless, whatever-it-takes quest to punish those responsible and prevent any recurrences.

To a striking extent, those goals have been achieved. Yet over the years, Americans have also learned about trade-offs, about decisions and practices that placed national security on a higher plane than civil liberties and, in the view of some, above the rule of law.

It’s by no means the first time in U.S. history that security concerns spawned tactics that, when brought to light, troubled Americans. But the past decade has been notable, even in historical context, for the scope and durability of boundary-pushing practices.

Abroad, there were secret prisons and renditions of terror suspects, the use of waterboarding and other interrogation techniques that critics denounced as torture, and the egregious abuse of detainees by U.S. military personnel at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison and elsewhere.

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Post-9/11 tradeoff: Security vs. civil liberties

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin~

America has become a nation of WIMPS. We have become more concerned about the RIGHTS of our enemies, and criminals in general, than we are about the preservation of this once great nation.

Radical Islam, that is to say, ISLAM, has declared WAR on America. The idea that there is such a thing as a moderate Muslim is wrong. The idea that Muslims can, or will be loyal Americans is WRONG. If these so-called moderate Muslims are truly moderate, if they are indeed loyal Americans, why then do they not speak out against the violence and terrorism that is perpetuated in their name? 

Islam is the enemy of FREE Americans, and freedom world wide, but we, that is to say, our government, and the bleeding heart, HATE AMERICA 1st crowd among us want justice for all and equal treatment under OUR laws.

Remarkably many Muslims actually want this nation to be governed under Sharia Law.

70% of American Muslims Say US Should Impose Sharia: Legalized Polygamy

“I believe the government should legalize polygamy because it is lawful in Islam. It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status.” — Muslima in an Islamic polygamous marriage…nearly 70 percent said they believe that the U.S. should legalize polygamy…42 percent of those surveyed said they were either in, or knew others in polygamous marriages within the local Muslim community. Thirty nine percent said they would engage in a polygamous marriage if it were legal in the United States. SOURCE

Our own Judges are trying their very best to implement Sharia Law in America.

Judge Rules American Courts Can Use Sharia Law

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: And yet, another example of America bending over backwards to be inclusive. A Florida appeals court has just cleared the way for lawsuit over a monetary dispute at a mosque to be determined by Islamic Sharia law — in a U.S. court, no less. It’s not the first time. But why is it happening at all? SOURCE

At the risk of sounding cold, mean and offensive; if these people want to live under Sharia law they need to go to the flea infested dung heap of their choice that practices Sharia and live in a nation dominated by Sharia and Muslim rule.

The above piece from FOX News fully illustrates 1, FOX News has taken their concept of *fair and balanced* a bit too far, and 2, liberals, Bob Beckel being the most liberal of the panel, are all for Sharia in America.

Security vs. civil liberties? Muslims in America do NOT want civil liberties, they want to see the implementation of Sharia Law.

As stated above, Islam is OUR enemy, they have vowed to destroy ALL that don’t submit to Islam and/or pay Jizya tax. This attempt to bring Islamic law to America, even in small doses, is nothing more that a long term attack on American freedoms and security.

Do you want to have real security in America?

Well then, here is what you do to accomplish that goal; CLOSE the U.S. birders, allow no one to immigrate to the U.S. until such time as we have rounded up and deported each and every Muslim in this nation. Once that has been done we can once again look at LEGAL immigration, on a case by case review.

Too harsh? Then YOU need to rethink American security. It wasn’t 1st Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian or the Assembly of God that attacked America and continues to do so.

Ask yourself this question, and answer as honestly as you can; WHY are you so concerned with the civil liberties of an enemy that has sworn to kill you and yours?

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14 Responses to Post-9/11 tradeoff: Security vs. civil liberties

  1. Robert says:

    Absolutely spot on. Israel has it about right. They know exactly who/what the enemy is and prepares for war with it at all times. They PROFILE, they do whatever it takes to protect their citizens. Here? Oh noes profilin is wrong.. Well until mommy or daddy are vaporized by a splodey in a shopping mall.. Then it’s HEY WHY DIDN’T SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!!!!!

    Kill em all save 12 (They’ll need to work 24hrs a day shift work)

  2. GM Roper says:

    Fred, one of the reasons the Muzzies want Sharia law is that they are entirely too cowardly to accept personal responsibility for living in the U.S. Witness honor killings, but the dad doesn’t “kill himself” because he spawned that “child of satan.” Witness the elderly Imams calling for the young to become suicide bombers and not looking to become grooms to 72 Virgins golden raisins. And you damn sure don’t see these muzzie a**wipes who are rich staying sober and out of houses of ill repute.

    Damn them all if they don’t like living in our country, with our culture and our laws.

  3. BobF says:

    I think that too many Americans believe that if they’re nice to Muslims and allow their customs and Sharia Law to creep into American society that the Muslims will leave them alone. Too many Americans are, down deep, scared of Islam and feel if they make nice, Islam will make nice too. This is the same type of mindset that was prevalent on American universities and Democrat circles during the cold war when they said “better red than dead”. Problem is that Islam doesn’t make nice. Islam conquers by total domination and any resistance to them will result in death. What we’ve seen take place in Egypt and other countries in the Middle East is nothing to what’s going to happen as America becomes more tolerant of Islam and Sharia Law. Just visit Dearborn or Hamtramck, Michigan to see what happens when Islam takes hold. They now have “call to prayers” played over the city loudspeakers and, you know what, you don’t hear a peep out of the ACLU about separation of church and state.

    25% of Muslims ages 18-29 living in America believe suicide bombing can be justified:

    2,300,000 Muslims living in America
    667,000 Muslims are between the ages of 18-29
    166,750 Muslims between ages 18-29 believe suicide bombing can be justified

    One of those 166,750 Muslims made himself known at Fort Hood two years ago.

  4. TexasFred says:

    My friend, I am about to get tired of preaching it… It’s getting VERY close to ATTACKING it!!

  5. Tex says:

    Islam is not a religion. It is a malevolent repressive doctrine. Sharia law is in contravention of our Constitution. There must be a Federal Law banning Sharia.

    • BobF says:

      Tex, we’ve already got something better than a Federal Law banning Sharia. It’s the Constitution of the United States. Unfortunately, we now have a government which believes the Constitution is irrelevant and only worth enforcing when it suits their purpose.

  6. mrchuck says:

    Never trust an Arab has been my “mantra” for over a decade.
    Their laws and religion lets them lie and thanks them for it.

    I see most of the cab drivers in Dallas are Somalies of arabs.
    They stop and spread out their prayer rug even on Central Expressway”.

    I’ve seen it numerous times, but yet haven’t run over them.
    Times may change.

    So be careful out there. We will need every able bodied warrior soon as the shit will be hitting the fan sooner than we now think.
    These “occupy protesters”are the notice that we will be in a “civil and racial war” very soon.
    The white welfare class will possibly join on “their “side because the leeches will get their welfare card cut off.
    Yes, cut off.
    I am tired of going shopping and seeing the lines in front of me using it!
    Again, today out of 20 shoppers, 12 were using the welfare card!!!
    I am sick of the slackers, won’t work for their food, assholes.
    I tried to hire one to do basic labor work here, and he demanded 25 dollars an hour, or he won’t show up.
    What Gall!!! The time is now to get this war on and be over sooner!.

    • BobF says:

      Nothing worse than being in line at a grocery store and having some welfare queen arguing with the clerk because what she wants to buy isn’t on the approved list by EBT or WIC. This woman is too stupid to realize the clerk doesn’t make the rules, the state who is giving her free food makes them. When I see them pull out the EBT and WIC cards, I just go to another line.

  7. minuteman26 says:

    Bought another thousand rounds of 5.56mm on Saturday. Pays to stay prepared.

  8. Funny you should mention this, TF.

    Last night, after leaving a movie, I saw a guy, obviously ME, walking with a woman in the full meal deal. I pointed this out to my wife. It was the FIRST of this I’d seen in the area. I said, “hey, check out the Beekeeper’s Uniform. She’s nothing but chattel.”

    My wife had never seen one. I told her: this is what Islam wants for YOU, as well as a clitorectomy and full obedience. You can’t drive, you will always be subservient, you must do as your husband wishes when he wishes with the consequence that, if displeased, Sharia Law can have you killed for various violations.

    Keep it up America. Just keep letting Loving Islam into your fold. GREAT for me; not quite not so great for chicks.


  9. Sorry. M.E. as in Middle Eastern.


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