Should Texas Secede from the Union?
Lately there is a lot more movement afoot to actually secede from our Union with the less than United States of America, a nation perhaps now better described as the Less than United Socialist States of America.
The reason are manifold, Voter Fraud, National Debt, Oil and Gas production, The Economy and Jobs and God only knows how many other reasons we can come up with!
Thirteen Colonies fought a war for Independence from England, and WON!
Facing the most powerful nation on earth those few proud and determined individuals took on the most powerful military on the face of this Earth and they WON their freedom.
The United States today is NOTHING like the great nation our Founders conceived; it is a bloated and corrupt bastardization of the greatest set of rules ever written by man, the United States Constitution. If the USA were still that nation, the nation I loved in my youth, I would NOT be writing these words.
There is now a petition being signed asking the U.S. government to let Texas go: Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
Yeah, like the WH is going to pay attention to a petition. I hate to sound negative but petitions are NOT going to get the job done.
Plus, those petitions themselves will scare MANY potential signers away; you have to have a WhiteHouse.gov account to sign and I am NOT going to establish an account of that nature so I can ask “Please Sir, can we have our freedom?”
This isn’t a matter for which you petition the Socialist Bastard in Chief to resolve, it’s one where Texans stand and demand that the TEXAS state government declare itself FREE of the tyranny that IS the United(?) States of America!
The FREE REPUBLIC of TEXAS!
So, what’s the REAL situation there Gov. Perry? Just where do YOU stand Sir? Were your words about Texas secession simply campaign rhetoric of do you have the BALLS to lead this fight?
Deo vindice.
If y’all do, I’m gonna be envious. You’ll vouch for me so I can get a passport to visit, right? ‘Cause surly you won’t be having any of that open border crap.
You do realize? I am very serious in this…
Vouch for you? Only if you intend to stay… And bring what guns you have… You can get more once here…
Oh I know you’re serious. And I’m serious when I say I’d be envious. I truly feel like I’ve lost the America I once knew and loved.
About 15 years ago, I rode my Harley out to Texas with a buddy of mine from Grapevine. I was so blown away with the people in your fair state that we almost moved there. I LOVE Texans. Now, fast forward to 2012. I no longer have my Harley and I no longer have a country. It might actually be time to think about moving to Texas again.
The door is always open for you my Brother!
Fred, I remember the Texans I met talking about seceding 15 years ago! I thought, “Wow, that IS intriguing.” Heck, things weren’t nearly as bad as they are now. That’s one of the things I love about you all the most…that independent thinking.
I got the movie Gods and Generals and it’s a very good and interesting movie about Civil War, dealing a lot with General Stonewall Jackson. After watching this a few years back, I did some reading up on these great generals of the Civil War, mainly the Confederate generals. It seems the belief of these men were in this order: God, State, and Country. They put God ahead of all. After that, their State came before the Country. You see, it was the States that make up the Country, not the other way around like it is now. Their loyalty to the Nation was through their State. The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery and everything to do with the States rights to govern themselves.
I’m in. We have the resources. We can finally clean up the border if we do. Sorry Arizona.
Hell, yeah! Go for it!
JDL
Well get that diesel rolling. Long way to go, short time to get there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzuYPytj85o
Am for it. A lot to consider though. Groups such as “free cheesers” , Obama worshipers, and muslims need to be run out of state. Monetary system has to be set up. Southern border sealed and defended. A Texas military has to be formed and be prepared to repel Obama’s henchmen. All federal agencies need to be sent packing. Practice of Islam made illegal. Citizens will need to swear an oath to the new Republic, etc. Not for the weak of heart. Govt has to be set up as the founding fathers envisioned.
Fred, as much as I love Arizona and our ballsy governor, I’m afraid we have a weak SOS who caves to the liberals and let obama stay on the ballot. Arizona had the ballot measure to refuse obamacare and it failed. I haven’t been able to find a job in a YEAR now and for the moment we know I’m a “free cheeser” while going to school to retrain in another field, and yes, I’ve had to use a Pell grant to go back to school.
My unemployment is exhausted and I had to file for the extension-which was granted for another 3 1/2 months BUT it won’t kick in right away because-wait for it-it’s an “issue” with unemployment that I’m in school to retrain.
The stress of all this, fighting the house foreclosure, all of that, landed me in the hospital while I was having a heart attack (I just thought I was dizzy), a collapsed lung, and kidney failure. I was in and out of a coma the first 12 hours of my admittance. I am now technically disabled-actually I have been for the past 10 years-but am not ready to give up yet. I am all of 51 years old, way too young for this.
I would GLADLY move to Texas, particularly if there is work. Arizona isn’t quite at the point of secession Texas is-I wish they were. Election night, I was so fed up I formally changed my voter registration from my original party choice of Republican to “No Preferred Party”.
Would Texas take me?
Oh, and yes, I AM continuing to look for a job while going to school-all my classes are arranged so they’re online so they would NOT interfere with a job and I average 2-3 interviews a WEEK. But, because I’m not “eye candy”, because my mouth is a train wreck (radiation treatments and all), regardless of knowledge and experience, I don’t get the jobs. I couldn’t afford my books this semester-they were actually more expensive than the classes-and for a long time didn’t have my internet. Rather than wring my hands and whine, I adapted-I go to the library, where the books are there for my assignments (and do what I can at home) and to use the internet to turn them in.
I’m also skating on thin ice because my car is currently illegal and my license suspended-the car wouldn’t pass emissions so the registration is expired and my license is suspended because I was caught in a red light camera thing-made the turn on yellow, but they ticketed me for running a red. I simply don’t have the money to take the traffic survival class (although the ticket is paid).
Sigh.
Should Texas Secede?
Yes, if certain devilish details could be worked out:
Item 1: nearly 3,000 miles of border to safeguard against 2 hostile neighbors.
Item 2: given the large number Mexicans living in Texas, the Republic of Texas would need to take meaningful steps to keep them from conspiring to return your republic to Mexican control.
Item 3: an untrustworthy - downright dangerous - American regime. If Barry willfully ignores, and/or violates the U.S. Constitution, why would he honor the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848?
Item 4: are there enough (an overwhelming majority) rational adults in Texas to keep the Moonbats from doing to Texas what they did in the USA? America died because the takers greatly outnumber the makers.
The devil as always in the details.
Lots of details to work out for sure…. That’s why Texas has guys like me, detail oriented Patriots that have a solution or 2 in the handbook!
Maybe keep together for generations fought for before, including us.
http://www.coolestone.com/media/4848/G.I.-Joe-&-Lillie—A-True-Love-Story/
I would very much like to see not just the speechification of this, but an actual overt act made towards the point, as in the passage of an act, a resolution, etc.
It would be highly instructional to see the results from DC. . .
And/or an astounding precedent.
BZ
When Texas secedes I’ll come come down there and willingly fight for her freedom. It would be an honor to do so. And I’ll see if I can get some of my relatives in Israel to join in the fight.
BTW a friend (nice Texas man) sent this to me:
Texas Declares War on the USA
President Barack Obama was in the Oval Office when his telephone rang. “Hello, President Obama,” a heavily accented southern voice said. “This is Archie, down here at the Joes Crab Shack, Houston Texas. I am callin’ to tell ya’ll that we are officially declaring war on ya!”
“Well Archie,” Barack replied, “This is indeed important news! How big is your army?”
“Right now,” said Archie, after a moments calculation, “there is myself, my cousin Harold, my next-door-neighbor Randy, and the whole dart team from Hooters. That makes eight!”
Barack paused. “I must tell you Archie that I have one million men in my army waiting to move on my command.”
“Wow,” said Archie. “I’ll have at call ya back!”
Sure enough, the next day, Archie called again. “Mr. Obama, the war is still on! We have managed to acquire some infantry equipment!”
“And what equipment would that be, Archie?” Barack asked.
“Well, we have two combines, a bulldozer, and Harry’s farm tractor.”
President Obama sighed. “I must tell you Archie, that I have 16,000 tanks and 14,000 armored personnel carriers. Also, I’ve increased my army to one and a half million since we last spoke.”
“Lord above,” said Archie. “I’ll be getting back to ya.”
Sure enough, Archie rang again the next day. “President Obama, the war is still on! We have managed to git ourselves airborne! We up an’ modified Harolds’s ultra-light with a couple of shotguns in the cockpit, and four boys from the Legion have joined us as well!”
Barack was silent for a minute then cleared his throat. “I must tell you, Archie, that I have 10,000 bombers and 20,000 fighter planes. My military complex is surrounded by laser-guided, surface-to-air missile sites. And, since we last spoke, I’ve increased my army to TWO MILLION!”
“Oh Lord,” said Archie, “l’ll have at call you back.”
Sure enough, Archie called again the next day. “President Obama! I am sorry to have to tell you that we have had to call off this here war.”
“I’m sorry to hear that” said Barack. “Why the sudden change of heart?”
Well, sir,” said Archie, “we’ve all sat ourselves down and had a long chat over a few beers, and come to realize that there’s just no way we can feed two million prisoners.”
This is pretty good. I like the 10,000 bombers.
Did you know that during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the US had over 1,400 heavy bombers armed and ready to go. Today we have probably about 162 on active duty of which 66 are non-nuclear capable. And, it’s only going to get worse.
Y’all pull it off, I will be one of the first to apply for LEGAL immigration to the Great Lone Star State!! Pack up my guns and gear in the truck and drive about 15 miles due West to get there.
PS…Way to go Aggies!!!
If at first, you don’t secede, try again … I’m ready to emigrate.
Y’all wouldn’t ship me back to Hellinois, would you?
I’ve been in favor of secession forever, 100%.
My only concerns are Social Security and VA benefits. Any idea how those would be handled? Would the US be required to keep making payments?
Excellent question… I wish I had a definitive answer… I have to guess that much like retired military that live outside of the USA get their checks, the same *should apply, but with the situation the USA faces, and the fact that we are BROKE, I am guessing that Vets, SS recipiants and government retirees would get screwed… We’re going to get screwed if we stay too though…