The Candidates claim FAITH?? Prove it…
WASHINGTON - In a rare public discussion of her husband’s infidelity, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday that she probably could not have endured her marital troubles without relying on her faith in God.
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Clinton: Faith helped during woesWASHINGTON (AP) — The personal faith of candidates has become a very public part of the 2008 presidential campaign.
Seven years after George W. Bush won the presidency in part with a direct appeal to conservative religious voters — he cited Jesus Christ as his favorite philosopher during one debate — it seems all the leading presidential candidates are discussing their religious and moral beliefs, even when they’d rather not.
Democratic Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama have hired strategists to focus on reaching religious voters. Obama’s campaign holds a weekly conference call with key supporters in early primary and caucus states whose role is to spread the candidate’s message to religious leaders and opinionmakers and report their concerns to the campaign.
Democrats in general are targeting moderate Roman Catholics, mainline Protestants and even evangelicals, hoping to enlist enough voters for whom religious and moral issues are a priority to put together a winning coalition.
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Religion, politics go hand-in-hand in ‘08 race
(AP) A Roman Catholic bishop is criticizing Rudy Giuliani, a Republican presidential candidate of the same faith, for statements on abortion that he labeled hypocritical.“Rudy’s public proclamations on abortion are pathetic and confusing. Even worse, they’re hypocritical,” Thomas J. Tobin, the bishop of Providence, R.I., wrote last week in a column in the Rhode Island Catholic.
Giuliani has stressed that while he’s personally opposed to abortion, he believes women should be able to decide for themselves whether to terminate a pregnancy.
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Catholic Bishop Raps Rudy On Abortion
Well, here’s a little something all these pandering politicos need to consider, and I mean ALL of em, Dem and Repubs, talk is cheap, and actions speak a lot louder than words, and by actions I don’t mean a ‘photo op’ at some local congregation on Sunday morning…
If they want to convince Conservatives about their religious beliefs, if they want to make Conservatives believe that they have an unshakable faith in God and would lead this nation as true Christians I have a few suggestions to make it so…
Get PRAYER back in schools, and DO IT NOW!
Ban homosexual marriage, ban it completely, and DO IT NOW!
Stop the murder of the most innocent of victims, outlaw abortion and make the penalties for having an abortion so severe that no woman would risk having it and no doctor would risk performing it, unless under the most strict of guidelines involving the life or death of the mother, STOP abortion and DO IT NOW!
Those 3 issues would be all it takes to convince Conservative Christians that a candidate really does have a life grounded in faith and not a talking point designed to garner votes from the faithful…
June 5th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Whose prayer? What religion? Christain, Jews, Muslims? If you let one you will have to let them all.
100% agree.
All Muslims should be forced to have abortion. No pregnant Muslims allowed in the USA. I’m no longer Pro-Life when it comes to these asshats.
There is not one of these canidates on either side that I would ever vote for, faith or not.
Now, go ahead and let me have it, I’ll still love ya.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:33 pm
I stand corrected.
If this is all we have I’ll go with Tancredo.
RUN FRED RUN.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Well Ranando, you know I ain’t praying to ANY Muslim asshole…
And the ‘abort all Muslims’ is the ONLY abortion I could support, what’s to blast you over??
June 5th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Ain’t no way Hitlery or Osama.. er.. Obama.. could prove to me they have honest to goodness faith, that would take a miracle of Biblical proportions. She’s a liar and he’s a muslim in Christians clothing.. “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ…”
As for Rudy, he’s no conservative nor do I believe he was much of a Christian.. no true Christian would support abortion.. period.
As for Bush, I honestly don’t know if his faith is as strong as he says or acts any more. (See scripture quoted above.. this is how I feel he led people on)
I can say this whole thing has taught me to not only look at a persons (especially anyone that claims to be a conservative and a Christian) claim to faith, but take a good long hard look under the hood, so to speak, and find out every little dirty thing I can about their political beliefs before I cast my vote for them.
I can tell ya’ll one danged thing.. None of the three I mentioned above would make the list of viable candidates for me, talk about the ‘blind leading the blind’.. shesh.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Deeds not words.
BZ
June 6th, 2007 at 6:26 am
I agree with Ranando about prayer - now, maybe quiet time where children are allowed to pray if they want I could support.
‘abort all Muslims’ = Guys, please!!! If abortion is wrong, it is wrong across the board. Those children may grow up to be great people, christian converts, the solution to radical islam. Sorry, abortion is wrong period.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:28 am
Here’s my 2 cents, for what it’s worth.
First, prayer in schools. Currently, the ONLY prayer banned in schools (at least public schools) would be CHRISTIAN PRAYER. As muslims have SUED for their rights, and I.S.D.’s are sued into DENYING Christians OUR RIGHTS!
Abortion, I’m almost with ya here, but abortion should NEVER have been, nor should it ever be a federal decision. Yes, I know that there are some states which will “legalize it”, but it is a STATE’S RIGHTS ISSUE! Remember, all power NOT delegated to the federal government shall be reserved to the states and the people.
Last, on the issue of gay “marriage”. Marriage is a RELIGIOUS institution, and as such, legal contracts for passing on of assets, medical power of attorney, and so on CAN BE DRAWN UP FOR ANYONE. Homosexuals want to have the “right to marry” so they can FURTHER DRIVE THIS COUNTRY TO HELL! You see, if the gubmint says it’s a “right”, you WILL see law suits aimed a Churches to FORCE them to marry a gay couple, NO MATTER WHAT, and the aclu(natics) will be LEADING THE CHARGE! So, I’m with ya here, ban it NOW and FOREVER.
June 6th, 2007 at 9:55 am
GM, you disappoint me, the prayer thing, somehow, I thought you’d be one that would want to return prayer to our schools, guess not… As Smokey said, the Muslims have already sued for their rights to say a prayer to MoMo…
And the abortion thing, on my part, I KNOW it can’t happen, unless we engage in retroactive birth control, you know, kill em ALL and let Allah sort em out, and I know the academic answer to that too, so save your breath…
June 6th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
I’ve no doubt Hillary depended upon her “faith in God,” to get through the infidelity of her husband with the American public; the question is who is her God?
June 6th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
The only thing ‘American politicians’ have ‘faith’ in is that fact that American voters are easy to bamboozle and that is a justified faith.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Blandly asks a good question — which god is she referring to? Most of the candidates are just pandering to a polling group.
Prayer in school is something that concerns me. I believe the freedom to pray should be granted to all, yet the form of prayer should never be dictated. I don’t want someone telling my kids how to pray — whatever their religion. It should not be disruptive to the class — i.e. Muslim prayers at specific hours, etc or Buddhist prayer with incense, etc. Perhaps the moment of silence granted to all for the free exercise of their personal beliefs is the best answer.
Abortion = murder (period). I agree with the sentiments that maybe in the case of the future jihadists it would be justifiable homicide, yet we don’t know what their future will be. “Judgment is mine saith the Lord.”
Homosexual marriage — wrong/unnatural — whatever you want to call it. There are basic moral laws in the universe. Homosexuality is purely egocentric self-gratification at its lowest. It definitely violates the ultimate Law of God. All that being said — it is all forgivable by the One who holds it all in His hand.