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Mexican police, migrant smugglers open fire: 2 die

August 5th, 2008 . by TexasFred

VERACRUZ, Mexico (AP) – Two people are dead after a shootout between Mexican police and smugglers driving a truck carrying illegal immigrants.

Police caught up with the truck near the town of Agua Dulce in southeast Mexico. The town’s police chief, Jose Atenedoro, says the smugglers then opened fire on officers, starting a shootout and car chase. The chase ended when the truck crashed into a ditch.

Gunfire killed two people, while about 30 of the 42 immigrants hidden in the truck were injured in the crash Monday. Both of the men killed were migrants.

The driver tried to escape, but was caught by police.

Officials say the immigrants were from Honduras, El Salvador and Ecuador.

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Mexican police, migrant smugglers open fire: 2 die

Does this story throw up any *warning hackles* for you?? Surely the Mexican Police aren’t murdering racists??

Maybe the FBI needs to be informed. The Mexicans are killing illegal immigrants passing through Mexico en-route to the USA.

Recently I was threatened by a loony blog troll with being turned over to the FBI for making *hate speech* and racist remarks in my blog, and for inciting violence against the *poor downtrodden immigrants* that only want to make a better life for themselves. I think the premise was that I advocated shooting the ILLEGALS down on sight.

OK, lets make it easy on our poor overworked FBI guys and gals, this way they don’t have to scour my blog looking for what I said.

Round up and deport the ILLEGALS, they are called ILLEGAL for a reason. I have never said to *shoot ALL ILLEGALS on sight*, I have said to deport ALL ILLEGALS.

The part that gets the troll confused is this, the border control part. I DID say we need to man our borders with troops, National Guard troops, and I DID say those troops need to placed under orders to SHOOT TO KILL anything crossing our border at anything *other* than a LEGAL border crossing, and somehow, I thought that even a dimwit could grasp that part, I guess I was wrong.

If calling for the ILLEGALS that are invading our nation to be repelled by any means necessary makes me guilty of *HATE SPEECH*, well, there ya go, guilty as charged.

If by wanting to stand up and defend America I am guilty of what some perceive to be *HATE SPEECH*, well OK, I am guilty of *HATE SPEECH*.

And if by saying that I want to defend this nation and want to STOP the ILLEGALS that are raping this nation blind makes me a BAD American, call the FBI and tell em, TexasFred is a hate mongering bad American.

I know that’ll make their day… And by the way, I believe that my speech, in MY blog, is a protected right, I think it’s called the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution if I am not mistaken.

Unless the Constitution has been recently suspended I am allowed to speak my mind in my blog, it’s called FREE SPEECH, and those that would limit MY free speech are the true unAmericans and the danger to this nation that they would have others believe me to be.

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55 Responses to “Mexican police, migrant smugglers open fire: 2 die”

  1. comment number 1 by: Kate

    Nope, never “heard” you say ‘shoot ‘em on sight’. And they can scour all the bloggers who comment here. Nowhere have I seen advocating for the firing squad.

    On the other hand, if they are sneaking over the border, don’t we have a right to defend our HOME? This is our home, the US of A! This isn’t an extension of Central America! We are a sovereign nation! Round ‘em up….kick ‘em out! If they return….. And by the way, bill the nation of origin. I’m sick of paying for them with my tax dollars.

    Is that “hate speech”? So be it!

  2. comment number 2 by: ChrisWy

    I don’t see any hate speech here, just a guy making sense. We should secure our borders, we should repel invaders using any means necessary, we should deport all the illegal aliens.

  3. comment number 3 by: ozarkguru

    The Troll obviously doesn’t understand FREE SPEECH or LEGAL CITIZEN or ILEGAL ALIEN.

    Maybe the troll is one of the backers of the Mexican Drug Dealers smuggling drugs into the US. Poste the following story previously: Upper Level Meth Drug Dealers Are Illegal Immigrants http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2008/08/upper-level-meth-drug-dealers-are.html

  4. comment number 4 by: TexasFred

    Thanks Chris, you’re kind of new to this so just to let you know, this guy thinks I have some sort of *Svengali like* hold on bloggers, I control you and you only post comments here to avoid my wrath… Not making it up man, he said it in his blog…

    I know better, you know better, any relatively sane person knows better, so, I guess that lets this little pissant Douglas OUT of the equation…

    I don’t take threats lightly, and threatening to call the FBI and turn me in for wanting to defend this nation is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, but he said that too, so, I sent him the address and phone number to the FBI office right here in Dallas…

    I try to be helpful, ya know?? :P

  5. comment number 5 by: Mark Krauss

    I think the feds have other.. uh, REAL problems to deal with Fred, and I’m sure they’re smart enough to ignore a whiny-assed sniveling liberal dumbass who gets his feelings hurt by reading some conservatives blog (can you imagine his distress if a REAL problem came his way?). liberals like having a supply of illegals around so they can get their lawn work done for less than the minimum wage, and they like to have people around they feel superior to, liberals today are so stupid they have to scour the Honduran backwater villages to find anyone that can’t outwit them.

  6. comment number 6 by: Gawfer

    Seems to me Fred, you were the one who got ‘torqued’ when Joe ‘what’s his name’ opened fire and killed those two illegals robbing his neighbor’s house. So I don’t think you necessarily advocate ‘killing illegals,’ nor do I think that defend our borders at all costs constitutes ‘hate speech’. I don’t believe you have yelled Fire in a crowded room, nor do I believe you have incited a crowd to riot. I am not a constitutional lawyer, but I don’t think being racist is a crime either. It may be an undesirable characteristic, but it certainly isn’t a violation of the law.

    Remember, the First Amendment does NOT protect us from being offended.

  7. comment number 7 by: cary - Botan Ichihara

    Well, let’s see if we can help certain slower readers figure this out:

    The United States is a sovereign nation. We have rules. One of those rules is that we allow immigrants, based on a percentage, to enter and apply to become citizens. We allow these immigrants to enter at Ports of Entry. Anyone entering this country at other than a Port of Entry is considered an illegal immigrant, or as some beer-drinking, bog-dwelling redneck racists (myself included) like to call them, invaders. They are breaking the law of the country and of warfare, by making unauthorized entry to a country other their own. The United States is constrained by Politically Correct BS from guarding our borders from these invaders, because it might hurt their feelings.

    Mexico is a sovereign nation, also. They have much stricter rules, and have armed guards on their southern border. They shoot to kill those trying to enter their country illegally. When some of these invaders DO manage to get across the border without being infected with high-speed lead poisoning, they are pursued like the criminals they are. (the leadership of the United States needs to take a lesson here)

    When it is suggested that the US arm the border guards and shoot any not entering at authorized points (again, called Ports of Entry) there are some people in the US (who are double-secret agents of the far-stupid) who believe that those holding this view should be reported as criminals fomenting hate. They also believe that any who make it across the border without perishing should be awarded with citizenship AHEAD of those who stand in line and politely wait their turn without breaking any laws. The people who feel this way are stupid.

    Vocabulary section:
    sovereign means under self rule.
    authorized means legal
    illegal means not authorized
    foment means to put forth with feeling
    (not to be confused with vomit, which means to put forth with froth)
    high speed lead poisoning means being shot
    stupid means you have a PhD in Political Science and teach at a fifth-rate community college in Southern California (this is not a reflection on SoCal, but a reflection on fifth-rate colleges)

  8. comment number 8 by: JennoftheTexans

    I am under the thrall of the evil mastermind Texas Fred…ooohhh ahhhh eeee ooooo.

    Yeah ok, like whatever. I agree with 100% OF THIS POST. That makes me a racist in the eyes of douchebag losers like Dickless than so be it.

    America FIRST. Always.

  9. comment number 9 by: Kate

    Hmmmm…..interesting thought. Perhaps he’s afraid his “supply” will be cut off?

  10. comment number 10 by: Kate

    Yeah….what Cary said!

  11. comment number 11 by: Robert

    Cary struck Gold there so did Gawfer…

    So far all I see is a folks pissed off and frustrated with the lack of action from the current, past and present leadership of our nation. Good damn thing we have this media to vent. The last time people were this pissed off at Government a revolution broke out.

  12. comment number 12 by: Robert

    Oh and as far as the Dickless one… Us bog dwelling racist redneck hicks have a word for that guy, RINO.

    He bitches about the situation, offers no solutions at all that havent already been tried, like AMNESTY. Then he calls folks racist that actually want to do something about the INVASION… Screw that.

    Donnie can get bent over in TJ for all I care. They would welcome him with open arms as long as he is spending money.

    As I said on this site once:
    If the POTUS stationed me on the border with a 50 cal and gave me orders to shoot to kill any one crossing illegally.. I would miss a few at first but I’d get the hang of it real quick.

  13. comment number 13 by: cary - Botan Ichihara

    Most .50 cals are machine guns, how much aim ya gotta have?

  14. comment number 14 by: ablur

    You can’t fix stupid. No matter what you say or how you say it, they will wet themselves thinking your hateful and mean. Don’t let them bother you. Perhaps your writings will incite real Americans to step up to the voting booth and jettison the worthless crew who refuse to follow our laws.

    Keep after them Fred. This whiner may be offering you free advertising that may make a difference come this election.

    Perhaps the FBI could look into these people as some kind of communist sympathizer. It is good for them to know where the weak minded our so they can better protect our nation.

  15. comment number 15 by: Katie

    Hate speech is a very broad term. Remind this troll of the Supreme Court decision from American Nazi Party vs City of Stokie. The crows said: “Even the most hateful and revolting speech is protected speech.”

    If the crows say that you can say it. Then the FBI can’t make a case.

    Admin Edit: I think that’s supposed to be Skokie…

  16. comment number 16 by: KrzyBeautiful

    I didn’t know that speaking your mind, especially in defense of the American people; made someone a racists. What a shame…

  17. comment number 17 by: nannykaren

    Fred,
    Some people are offended by the bare TRUTH. It is pathetic.
    Take for instance Obama, and his libs.
    They can dish it out but squeal like a stuck pig if anyone says anything about them!
    You have my support.

  18. comment number 18 by: GUYK

    Fred, an invader is an invader whether they are aliens trying to enter the country illegally or a thief who breaks into your home..or that of your neighbor..the right to won property implies the right to defend it..so the thief is fair game..just hope to remember to lead just a bit if he is running. The Border Patrol should have every right to open fire on invaders..I would suppose that they could yell “Halt or I’ll shoot” first in both English and Spanish..then open fire if they do not do a halt.

    Bigoted? hate speech? …yeah, I reckon to the left wing who hates America so much it is hate speech…but I kinda figure the time is coming when we may figure how much to lead a lot of them also..

    Admin Comment: Guy, on this side of the border, Halt or I’ll Shoot is ALL they get, English only…

  19. comment number 19 by: BobF

    To borrow a phrase from my good friend Vilmar.

    Would some “lily livered, Prius driving, America-hating, bleeding heart liberal, blinkered, Starbucks drinking, elitist, can’t-we-all-just-get-along, granola eating, namby-pamby, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging, long haired, pansy-assed, kumbaya-singing, Earth First, bed-wetting, patchouli wearing, dirty, smelly, dope smoking, bongo playing, arm pit haired women and feminized, armpit shaved men crying “Mother Earth is Gaia,” tortured “artiste” type” please tell me how advocating getting rid of criminals is racist?

    They’re criminals, not immigrants. Criminals are not a race of people, they’re a class of people…low class, very low class.

  20. comment number 20 by: AtTheWaterCooler

    Peter 1:14 – But even if you should suffer because of righteousness, blessed are you. Do not be afraid or terrified with fear of them,

    I believe Europe is going to suffer because they are unwilling to be called bigot. Will they understand after they have been trampled and walk on why it is happening to them. Will they see that in not standing for their rights they make them of no value.

    I am not certain what is going to happen here in the US.

  21. comment number 21 by: Basti

    Well I’ve got no use for trolls of any sort and those that support the invasion of illegal aliens into the US I really despise.

    Folks this is war that’s being fought right on the Southwestern border of this nation and its a real war. And so far I don’t see us winning this war.

    As for racist I don’t see it that way. Hispanics aren’t a race they are a ethnic division just like the Scots in the UK or the Ukraine’s in Russia. However you can’t expect an ignorant troll to know the difference or to care if he does know.

  22. comment number 22 by: Jo

    Shucks…not an original word comes to mind. However I agree with most everyone here…’specially loooove BobF’s comment !

  23. comment number 23 by: kris

    Dear Fred

    You’ll have to pardon my language:

    I get sick and damn tired of these whiny little bitches who try to shut down speech with the threat of a criminal prosecution/civil proceedings. There is one way to deal with people like that: If he has a case to bring, he should bring it or shut the fuck up.

    If on the slim and highly remote chance some officer of the law wants to speak to you, you know the drill.

  24. comment number 24 by: TexasFred

    Kris, what language?? Looked like English to me… :P

    Know the drill?? I helped write the drill, HE just hasn’t caught on to that fact yet… :)

  25. comment number 25 by: Right Truth

    And Fred, the illegals are getting called for jury duty and are voting in our elections.

  26. comment number 26 by: Gawfer

    This is an awful big ‘circle of hate’ you got Fred… :D

  27. comment number 27 by: kris

    is it just me, or does this “complaint” have Donald Douglas’s paw prints all over it?

  28. comment number 28 by: TexasFred

    Gawfer, I am a powerful Wizard…

    I am in control of the entire Conservative blogosphere, or, would that be *bogosphere*?

    Anyway, I am one powerful SOB, I make people fall in to line and march lockstep because they are afraid of my WRATH!!

    Bwaaahhhahhhahhhahhhaaaaa!!

    Oh crap… Wait a minute… Wizard… That’s a Klan term, am I admitting racism subliminally?? :(

  29. comment number 29 by: AtTheWaterCooler

    Linked to your post from Bloggers 1st Ammendment Rights – Appeal for moral support

  30. comment number 30 by: TexasFred

    Kris, it’s not paw prints per se, it’s more like puppy piss. :?

  31. comment number 31 by: Carl

    For whatever it’s worth, if this foolish one reports you to the FBI and causes you unwarranted grief, you most likely would have grounds for a harrassment lawsuit.

  32. comment number 32 by: maggiesnotebook

    Dang it Fred! If you weren’t so very popular, just because of issues like this, I wouldn’t have to login to comment here. How do I change the “password” you sent me?

    The idea of hate speech is unconstitutional (I know I’m treading on thin ice here because there’s been a lot of explaining going on about constitutional issues). Anyway, how did we ever let anything be labeled “hate speech,” or “hate crimes?”

    Islam is using the hate speech claim against us now.

    Maggie
    Maggie’s Notebook

  33. comment number 33 by: pat houseworth

    Last I looked Fred, “Hate Speech” was still protected…not that this is hate speech….let one of these bastards mess with one of mine, and they’ll get more than hate “speech”.

  34. comment number 34 by: nunoftheabove

    As for illegal immigration, this reminds me of the racism from another sector of our population. It is okay for African Americans to refer to each other as the n-word, but if an non-black says it, they are racist. Sometimes you are a racist just if you don’t agree with someone of a different (ie non Caucasian) origin.

    There are legal immigrants and illegal immigrants; there are legal left hand turns and illegal left hand turns. They both exist, but one has different consequences than the other.

    Duh…what is so difficult about this concept?

  35. comment number 35 by: Sage

    That moron turned you in to the FBI? You don’t spout hate speech you spout common, good ol American Sense!!!

    If the FBI looks into this they need their heads and butts examined to see which side they are using for their neuron updates thru their brain stems….sigh

    ‘Nuff said

  36. comment number 36 by: Robocop

    Illegal immigration is a national security problem,and should be treated as such. Screw the troll.

  37. comment number 37 by: rgroland

    TF, the FBI has alot more important things to deal than complains from some TROLL!! I agree with what you say and back you 100%. This is America, want to come in, get in line and follow the procedures set up for a reason. If only this could happen, our crime rate would plummet and the burden on hard working, law abiding Americans would ease up!!!

  38. comment number 38 by: Tish

    Hate speech? I don’t see any hate speech.

    If one doesn’t like what another person has to say, especially on a blog, then click the X @ the top left (or right if you are a PC user)

    It sickens me when people want to restrict others right to free speech. Everyone is walking around with their feelings on their shoulders, and want to cry out when they are offended. Spare me please!

    I support Fred 100%. If he’s spewing hate speech I’d hate to hear what they would say about my blogs and others like it.

    Ignore them Fred, it’s always like this when one says somethign the “masses” doesn’t agree with.

  39. comment number 39 by: TexasFred

    And ya know what Tish, I’d love to hear what he thinks of you, and what kind of names and accusations he throws your way…

    I was so glad to find folks like you and our new member Issac, I know that there are MANY people of color that are absolutely the most wonderful people in the world, and thank God there are, and I too know the difference between *persons of color* and those other names, and I absolutely HATE WHITE TRASH, oops, I can’t say that can I?? Is it HATE speech??

    Some ass-clowns, Donnie Dickless, can’t stand the truth, it burns them like light burns a vampire…

    And you know what I find funny?? *Persons of color*…

    We’re ALL persons of color… Some of us just have common sense… :P

    And folks, if you haven’t been to Tish’s blog, click her name and visit, she is a NO BS plain spoken blogger…

  40. comment number 40 by: Sam Pierce

    The real problem is people that can’t seem to grasp the concept of “illegal” and use phrases like “hate speech!”

  41. comment number 41 by: Carl

    BTW, Fred, here’s a graphic I made that you might present to your pet troll.

    http://www.anniemayhem.com/blog%20pics/cheesewithwhine.jpg

  42. comment number 42 by: rtaylor83305

    I’m a little late to the party – but….
    I am sick and tired of whiney people without a life crying “racism”, “hate speech”, blah, blah, blah.
    TexasFred – this troll needs to get a life and maybe a copy of the Constitution – if he/she/it can read and think independently without having it translated into PC-infested drivel……..
    Keep up the good fight!

  43. comment number 43 by: TexasFred

    KrzyBeautiful, yes Baby, to some it does and your Ol’ Dad is considered to be a racist and a perpatrator of hate speech…

    But there’s good news too…

    The guy that’s making the accusations is a complete and total ‘net trolling idiot, a poser, a sham, a fake, an over educated, underemployed, sexually frustrated troll with a massive inferiority complex and he tries to make himself look important with his mundane verbosity…

    And, he has NO idea who he’s pissed off..

  44. comment number 44 by: Isaac

    Nah, the Mexican police are not racist, just traitors to their own people, blah blah blah. Some dicks say the same about me just because I hate commies.

  45. comment number 45 by: MadIrishMan

    #1 you’re preemptive for all posts…

    *”I’m a highly opinionated blogger, if you ask for my opinion I’ll let you know exactly what’s on my mind. I don’t play the PC game, so, be very careful what you ask for. God, Guns & Guts made this nation great, I believe in all 3!*” both with that and other statements.

    #2 You’ve never come anywhere near what could be prosecuted as hate speech. (yer just not tryin’ hard ‘nough Fred..Dammit!)….

    #3 Even if you were simply unloading post after post of outright hate speech…it doesn’t fucking matter! People COME TO YOU. You do not broadcast to the world. People Click , search, whatever the hell they do to get here. They choose to come here, the choose to read or keep reading once they get here. Hell they have to friggin register to participate for Christ’s sake!

    #4 Who the hell is this pathetic values-perverting whining hysterical terrorist-coddling mentally unstable out-of-touch hippie Bible-bashing criminal-pampering sushi-eating stem-cell-sucking pansy defeatocratic America-blaming crackpot neorotic liberal-media-parroting surrender monkey angry vegan-exalting pothead Code Pink-worshipping Hollywood-humping elitist bedwetting welfare-glorifying tree hugging mentally unstable socialist abortion-promoting sinning out-of-control morality-destroying flip-flopping reckless race-card-playing crybaby sanctimonious confused MoveOn.org-genuflecting godless victim-playing politically correct pagan asshat?!?!?!?!

    And by the way…..YES we should damned well shoot Illegals attempting to infiltrate our country….TWICE.

    Slainte’

    Mad

    dangerous culture-war-waging pantywaists

  46. comment number 46 by: TexasFred

    You’ve never come anywhere near what could be prosecuted as hate speech. (yer just not tryin’ hard ‘nough Fred..Dammit!)….

    Well by God I’ll just have to try harder I suppose…

    I truly hate spinach… I hate spinach with every fiber of my body… I wish all spinach was burned to death in the fields and never graced a dinner table ever again… I hate it, I HATE it, I HATE IT to hell and back…

    Now the Spinach Growers of America can call the FBI and tell em I am publishing *HATE SPEECH* on my blog… :P

  47. comment number 47 by: MadIrishMan

    Dear God. By all that is holy and sacred you’ve done it now!

    All you sissy ass spinach lovers please go to the following link quickly and purchase your spinach lovers gear to further your pantywaist cause…
    http://www.evisionarts.com/shopfoodie/foodieshop.cgi/spinach

    Then you can rush over and join the official Spinach lover unite movement!
    http://www.grouprecipes.com/group/979

  48. comment number 48 by: Kate

    Does this mean you’re a spinachist? Hey…wait a minute… I LOVE spinach. Now I must denigrate… Oh never mind. :)

  49. comment number 49 by: TexasFred

    Kate, boil it all and let the Veggie Gods sort it out… :P

  50. comment number 50 by: urbanadder22

    The 1st amendment is being taken away from us under the guise of classifying every phrase that displeases the “illegals- have-a-right-to-be-in-the-U.S.” crowd or the more dangerous Islamic stealth invaders as “hate speech.

    The FBI, infiltrated by Islamics as well as believers in, for whatever reason, that the word “illegals” is a dirty word and really means “everybody in the world has a legal right to enter the United States,” is acting as the watchdog of Islamics and illegals.

    Does the term “Gestapo” bring back unpleasant memories? How ’bout KGB? Or what about a “political security police” that Obama has in store for us? Will the FBI willingly accepts that assignment?

  51. comment number 51 by: 2cents

    Frankly, it doesn’t matter if you did say they should be shot. That’s the nature of free speech, and if Lefty wackos can call for the assassination of Bush, Cheney, etc., you could certainly call for shooting illegal aliens (if you wanted to).

    This constant redefinition of words is one of the liberal Left’s favorite tricks, and it has got to stop. Similarly, these Stalinist tactics of simply suppressing all dissenting voices is one of the most disturbing trends happening in America today.

    Don’t ever back down, Fred! You’re right on this one, and we’ve got your back. The good news is that if you’ve become a target, you’re doing some things right. :)

  52. comment number 52 by: Tom

    As far as the troll goes, perhaps he would like to petition the UN for charging Mexico for hate crimes against those poor illegals passing through Mexico…after all, those actions far exceed anything that you would post here.

    Here’s a post that might interest you – Hate Speech vs Political Correctness vs Freedom of Speech

  53. comment number 53 by: Tom

    Another post for your reading pleasure – Free Speech

  54. comment number 54 by: Wild Thing

    I see no hate speech at all. What I do know and I am sick of it, are the illegals coming in to our country and acting lilke they own the place. Being catered to by the lefties and the touchie feelie rino’s.
    The corruption starts at the top and when our leaders in our government have no respect for our laws the same way the illegals do then we need to vote every last one of these scum out of office and get peoole in their that respect our laws and love our country.

    Illeglas just the word says it all. ILLEGAL ( criminals entering against our laws for immigratiion).

  55. comment number 55 by: MissBeth

    Fred, I’ve been following my own story on the leader of Derechos Humanos (shadow leader is Congressman Raul Grijalva) a pro-illegal group. My latest update is here:

    http://missbethsvictorydance.blogspot.com/2008/07/isabel-garcia-deputy-pima-county-public_17.html

    You know I don’t normally link my own posts, but I’m joining you as the hate speech, bad person who believes in defending our home by any legal means possible. And we have to fight groups like this, with their tentacles in corrupt government and buried in our Congress.

    Keep the pressure on!