ATF ‘Fast and Furious’ secret audio: Murder of Border Patrol agent ‘collateral damage’

Once in a while even the Mainstream Media gets it right and this is an occasion when the FULL STORY has got to be posted. If this doesn’t fully convince America that we are dealing with the most EVIL administration in American history, I don’t know what will!

ATF ‘Fast and Furious’ secret audio: Murder of Border Patrol agent ‘collateral damage’

WASHINGTON - In secretly recorded conversations between two individuals deeply entwined in the ATF’s controversial “Fast and Furious” operation, the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry is described as “collateral damage.”

The recordings were obtained exclusively by CBS News. The man who made them - Arizona gun dealer Andre Howard - ran the Lone Wolf Trading Company and was speaking with Hope MacAllister, the ATF operation’s case agent.

Two of the guns Howard sold while cooperating with the ATF that were later found at Terry’s murder.

“It happened. It’s terrible,” Howard said. “That’s life ok we move on.”

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Both Howard and MacAllister also shared concerns about Special Agent John Dodson who by that point had gone public with allegations about “Fast and Furious” and was assigned to the FBI. It was Dodson who first publicly disclosed allegations about “Fast and Furious” in an interview with CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. That interview took place several weeks before the recorded conversations took place. In his interview, Dodson said thousands of guns had been allowed to “walk” to Mexico - straight into the hands of the cartels - without intervention by ATF.

(Scroll down to listen to the audio and read the text of the excerpts)

In the following excerpts, they talk about the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Two weapons purchased by ATF Fast and Furious suspects were found at the murder scene. They also discuss concerns that ATF whistleblower John Dodson, who had then been moved out of the ATF office and tasked to the FBI, has information that could be damaging to the government.


Dealer: Unfortunately a consequence occurred from a weapon shall we say that found its way into the wrong area ok and that was not anticipated. Nobody could foresee that that’s collateral damage I think the term is. It happened. It’s terrible. That’s life ok we move on. Unfortunately, Mr. Dodson with his allegation is a pain in the a-. Now, my understanding now is it will be impossible now that he will be able to substantiate anything directly because that evidence is gone. I want you to know that. It don’t exist. Not that one. You understand me?

Agent: MMhmm.

Dealer: Good. I get that.


Dealer: My biggest problem is Dodson. You know this guy has damaged the hell out of me. I mean I walked out of here yesterday.

Agent: Mmhmm.

Dealer: I got it from the tattoo parlor, I got some damn Mexicans and white trash over there.

Agent: Yeah…

Dealer: Yelling across the parking lot: “can i buy 300 AK 47′s?? Would you turn me in, over that?” This is the kind of sh- i’m getting.

Agent: Yeah.


Dealer: The most damning thing that you guys got to be aware of I think hypothetically is was there, you have to ask yourselves this first I’m just throwin this out there, was there a communication that hypothetically the US Attorney’s office uh was entertained with the DOJ in reference to any ballistics tests or anything? Is there any way any of these idiots..

Agent: The problem is I mean we’re not investigating that case.

Dealer: I know the FBI is.

Agent: And he’s (Dodson) assigned to the FBI. I, I have not, I don’t have any way of knowing what he has access to. And that’s on the FBI. I mean that’s on them. If they consider him, don’t consider him an operational security issue, that’s their f—-g fault. But I don’t have access to that sh-, I don’t know I have no idea what the FBI.

Dealer: (unintell.) I know you don’t…I’m saying that’s a whole parallel issue.

Agent: Right.


Dealer: What about the emails copies he’s got?

Agent: Those emails are a year ago that’s why I wonder what he I mean

Dealer: Let me help you out. Here’s what I smell. There’s a reason you ran (unintell.) about not talking about any of your other agents out there.

Agent: Yeah.

Dealer: You got some rats in there honey…


Dealer: I’ll tell you some of these motherf—-s, I don’t know if they’re giving it to Dodson, I think they are, somebody’s got some inter-agency copies not just this sh-.

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ATF ‘Fast and Furious’ secret audio: Murder of Border Patrol agent ‘collateral damage’

I have got to congratulate CBS News for presenting this as they did, ALL Mainstream News Media sources need to present the facts as they are and leave the opinion to the opinion bloggers and pundits!

Any time an Officer goes down in the line of duty, ALL officers hurt, but for some ignorant ass to say that Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was described “collateral damage.” is an insult to ALL officers and to the memory of Brian Terry.

Heads need to ROLL, and it all starts with Attorney General Eric Holder. Where it goes from there, I don’t know, but let the chips fall where they may, whether it’s UP the line from Holder or down the line into the ranks of the ATF, DEA or FBI…

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7 Responses to ATF ‘Fast and Furious’ secret audio: Murder of Border Patrol agent ‘collateral damage’

  1. Dick Robie says:

    Being an FFL dealer myself - had I done any of the things these dealers were “forced” to do by the BATF I would be in jail now. How can an agency of the US Government coerce an FFL dealer to break the law. Holder knew, Obama knew and those below them knew. I think they all ought to be fired, indicted, tried and probably convicted. Won’t happen though-US Government is out of our control.

  2. Dick Robie says:

    and, no one mentions the Mexican citizens that were murdered by our Governments illegal activity. We lost one that we know of - how many did Mexico lose. I will be damned if they get away with this. Citizens should be speaking out.

  3. Rich T says:

    The below quote tells me that the dealer knew of the “disappearing” 3rd weapon at terry’s murder site. This dealer is just as balls deep at ATF & FBI. Any FFl that cooperates with ATF as much as he did a traitor.

    Now, my understanding now is it will be impossible now that he will be able to substantiate anything directly because that evidence is gone. I want you to know that. It don’t exist. Not that one. You understand me?

    Agent: MMhmm.

  4. minuteman26 says:

    ATF needs to be disbanded. Agency is full of corruption and traitors. Looking to become Obama’s Gestapo.

    • Texasperated says:

      What you said x 100! This monstrosity has no place under the 2nd amendment. Even if it were “whistle clean,” it would still be an unconstitutional mess. It exists for one purpose — to infringe our right to keep and bear arms.

      Keep your powder dry

  5. Katie says:

    To the Obama Regime a Border Patrol Agent has no valuable life. Only the illegal immigrant has a valuable life.

  6. Bloviating Zeppelin says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

    Having worked for the federal government, the federal LE agencies don’t take a SHIT in the morning unless approved by the local AUSA. They have NO concept of what local LE agencies call a “fresh arrest.” EVERYTHING is managed and massaged and micro-managed to the Nth degree on the large fed case and “Fast & Furious” WAS a LARGE federal case. EVERYTHING is done by warrant and that requires knowledge completely, vertically, UP and DOWN the food chain hierarchy.

    A big case like F&F? Involving GUNS? And MEXICAN cartels? Holder was either informed on EVERY aspect or he’s the largest MORON ever to sit in the AG seat. Further, you think it isn’t Holder’s MANDATE to inform Mr Obama on EVERY case that could possibly damage The One’s presidency?

    Do the math. Holder is a LIAR and a TRAITOR and a DUPE and acquired his position because he, like Obama, is “just black enough” to satisfy Leftists.

    And that F&F blood trail leads right THERE to the Oval Office.


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