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Is it Murder or Self Defense?

June 14th, 2008 . by TexasFred
Recently, I have been taken to task and called a ‘vile, redneck murderer’ because I advocate placing the U.S. military, combat troops, along the U.S. and Mexican border, and I also, unequivocally, advocate those troops being put in place and armed with FULL combat gear and ORDERS to SHOOT TO KILL anything crossing our borders ILLEGALLY.

I do NOT believe this constitutes and act of MURDER, I believe that these actions that I advocate constitute lawful defense of home and country, and would be defined as lawful acts of combat against an invading force intent on establishing a hostile takeover of this United States of America if we had a president with BALLS!

Murder: By definition

n. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

v. tr.
1. To kill (another human) unlawfully.
2. To kill brutally or inhumanly.

Further, I believe that in defending this nation in such a manner would fall under the auspices of The Castle Doctrine and Self-Defense and would be a duly lawful act as such.

Generally, the “castle doctrine” provides that someone attacked in his home can use reasonable force, which can include deadly force, to protect his or another’s life without any duty to retreat from the attacker. It is defined differently in different states. The name appears to have its origin in the English common law rules protecting a person’s home and the phrase “one’s home is one’s castle.”

Folks, I am firmly convinced that we are being invaded by a hostile force that intends to do harm to as many Americans as they possibly can as they attempt to reinsert themselves in a land that they consider to be lawfully theirs, Aztlán, and damn the consequences to the American people in the process.

I am told that we don’t need any more rednecks down on the borders making it even worse than it already is for border patrol personnel, SOURCE, and with that thought I tend to agree, but we DO need professional fighting men and women on that border, and a professional soldier is something my accuser has no understanding of apparently, nor does he comprehend defense of the nation.

We must stop this ILLEGAL INVASION by any means necessary.

In WWII, when our troops swarmed the beaches of Normandy, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Tarawa, and many other places, we were looked upon as INVADERS, and many of our troops were killed in the process of taking those lands.

Today the United States of America is being invaded and I ask you, wouldn’t it be our right, nay, our DUTY, to repel those invaders as forcefully as necessary?

If someone breaks into your home you have every right to shoot them dead, well, the United States of America is MY home, I feel that same right applies, to ALL of us.

I am asking all of my readers for an honest opinion, would stationing troops on our borders and giving the order to SHOOT TO KILL be an act of murder or is it an act of self defense, and the defense of our nation?

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Border Patrol Contract Workers Allegedly Released Illegals

June 5th, 2008 . by TexasFred

SAN DIEGO - Two Border Patrol contract workers were arrested for allegedly conspiring to shuttle illegal immigrants from San Diego to Los Angeles for $2,500 apiece instead of returning them to Mexico.

Christopher Saint Lucero and Manley Lamont Smith work for Wackenhut Corp., which holds a Border Patrol contract to escort illegal immigrants to Mexico after they are captured by agents in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

It was unclear how long the alleged scheme lasted and how many illegal immigrants were released on U.S. soil. According to court documents, Saint Lucero told a colleague that he had been involved in about 10 smuggling attempts.

The men were arrested Sunday after Saint Lucero allegedly escorted a group of illegal immigrants from the Border Patrol’s Chula Vista station in suburban San Diego to the border in Tijuana, Mexico. According to a statement of probable cause, Mexican authorities refused to admit two who identified themselves as Salvadorans. One was an undercover agent.

Authorities say Saint Lucero then brokered the deal to get the two men to Los Angeles. Smith allegedly met them at the Border Patrol station in his Wackenhut Jeep and offered to hide them.

The arrests are the latest in a string of corruption cases that have unsettled the Border Patrol and Customs and Border Protection, which oversees border crossings. A border inspector in San Diego was charged last month with allowing motorists to pass through his booth with illegal immigrants and marijuana in their vehicles.

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Border Patrol Contract Workers Allegedly Released Illegals

OK, let me see if I have this straight, Wackenhut, a private security agency, is doing contract work for the Border Patrol, the same Wackenhut that was fired from another big job recently, Wackenhut Fired from All Ten of Exelon’s Nuclear Plants, supposedly because their guards were doing their sleeping ON THE JOB, Asleep At The Power Plant

The very same Wackenhut that was fired from it’s contract at Homeland Security for not being able to properly secure the facility?? Wackenhut Loses HSA Contract

That’s the Wackenhut that our Border Patrol is using to supplement their forces??

Guys that are supposed to be protecting this nation, albeit under private contract, these guys are filling their pockets with money by transporting ILLEGALS into L.A.?? The very ILLEGALS that they are being paid to keep out of the USA??

Ya know, maybe I’m missing something here but wouldn’t the recent and documented failures of Wackenhut, wouldn’t those terminations of contracts be some kind of an indication to the people that are in charge of defending, and hiring those TO defend and protect this nation??

Marc Shapiro, a Wackenhut senior vice president, said the smuggling arrests are the first since the contract began in 2006. Wackenhut has escorted illegal immigrants back to Mexico more than 1 million times during that time, he said.

Mr. Shapiro, I take issue with that statement, while it’s probably true this is the 1st time there have been arrests, are you 100% certain that it’s just not the 1st time your people have been caught??

I’m would feel fairly secure in saying that this wasn’t some ’spur of the moment’ thrown together thing where a couple of security guards brainstormed themselves a way to pick up a quick few thousand dollars, I’d be very careful about calling it a 1 in a million shot if I were you…

But even if it were the 1st incident, now is the perfect time to make an example of your guards and make the rest of them painfully aware that there will be serious repercussions should an incident such as this ever happen again, and quite frankly, look at this through the eyes of the U.S. taxpayer, the people that are quite literally paying your salary, your companies past performance has been somewhat less than stellar…

I am really put out with what passes for security on our border with Mexico, we are hiring Rent-A-Cops when we should be deploying the National Guard, but we can’t do that because the Guard is taking up the slack for our undermanned army in Iraq and Afghanistan…

Here’s a thought, instead of hiring Wackenhut and being sorely disappointed, let’s hire some real professionals, like the guys from Blackwater USA, and put them on the border, and tell em to pretend they are doing an escort on Route Irish, and tell them to forget ROE’s, let your conscience be your guide, in 6 weeks we wouldn’t have an ILLEGAL problem…

Maybe I expect too much from the federal government, I don’t expect welfare or food stamps or free health care, but is asking for strict, reliable and competent border security asking for too much??

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Mexican military takes over town’s police force

May 21st, 2008 . by TexasFred

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) - There are no police anymore in Villa Ahumada. Even the mayor has fled.

Drug gangs have virtually seized this town of 1,500 not far from Texas, as Mexico’s cartels grow increasingly audacious.

The Mexican military took over the police department this week because all 20 officers on the force have either been killed, run out of town or quit, officials said Tuesday.

Mayor Fidel Urrutia took refuge in the state capital of Chihuahua City - 600 miles (1,000 kilometers) away - where he’s waiting for the soldiers to recover his town.

“Security will be in the hands of the army and the state (police) ministries, and it will remain like that indefinitely,” Chihuahua state police spokesman Marco Antonio Moreno said.

Late Saturday, some 70 assailants barged into town and killed the police chief, two officers and three residents. At least eight people were kidnapped.

The killings came a month after soldiers arrested eight men, including a police officer, during the burial of an alleged drug hit man in Villa Ahumada, about 80 miles (130 kilometers) south of El Paso, Texas.

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Mexican military takes over town’s police force

There is little left to say that hasn’t already been talked to death, and about all I have to say is, when Mr. Bush??

When do we seal our border?? When do we put armed troops on the border?? When do we give those troops the order lock and load and to stop the border jumpers, drug dealers and other assorted trash and potential terrorists from entering this nation??

When do we reinforce our Border Patrol and take those ridiculous rules of engagement off of them and let them actually do the job that needs to be done??

Our government spends BILLIONS of our tax dollars in Iraq, floods that nation with our military and says it’s being done to make us safe here at home when all the while the invasion of the USA continues almost unabated and gun battles rage along our border as the drug cartels exercise their power, and Mr. Bush pretty much looks the other way…

When does it stop?? It certainly won’t stop under a McCain presidency, he is as pathetic on border issues as Bush, and the American people are buying right into it…

Will Obama give the orders to make it stop?? Maybe, if we can get pigs airborne…

And the ones that don’t buy into the possibility of a McCain presidency being a good thing and doubt it’s effectiveness are saying they’ll hold their noses and vote for him anyway, and I am finding that hypocrisy more and more against everything I hold dear in my heart…

The 1st time there is a story about a town or community on the U.S. side of the border being invaded, and having it’s citizens and police murdered by these drug gangs, well, maybe then McCain and his ‘amnesty‘ and ‘open borders’ buddies will actually take up the battle…

After a blood bath has occurred here the cries for border security will be loud and long, and the demands for action will be numerous, the MSM will publish and broadcast all kinds of investigative reports looking into why the border wasn’t secured and demanding answers as to why this was ever allowed to happen…

Yes, after the attacks happen here the call to action will be heard all over this nation, but that won’t be an action so much as a reaction

A reaction too late…

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Join us or die, drug kingpins warn Mexican police

May 18th, 2008 . by TexasFred

CIUDAD JUAREZ, MEXICO — Drug cartels are sending a brutal message to police and soldiers in cities across Mexico: Join us or die.

The threat appears in recruiting banners hung across roadsides and in publicly posted death lists. Cops get warnings over their two-way radios. At least four high-ranking police officials were gunned down this month, including Mexico’s acting federal police chief.

Mexico has battled for years to clean up its security forces and win them the public’s respect. But Mexicans generally assume police and even soldiers are corrupt until proven otherwise, and the honest ones lack resources, training and the assurance that their colleagues are watching their backs. Here, the taboo on cop-killing familiar to Americans seems hardly to apply.

Police who take on the cartels feel isolated and vulnerable when they become targets, as did 22 commanders in the border city of Ciudad Juarez when drug traffickers named them on a handwritten death list left at a monument to fallen police this year. It was addressed to “those who still don’t believe” in the power of the cartels.

Of the 22, seven have been killed and three wounded in assassination attempts. Of the others, all but one have quit, and city officials said he didn’t want to be interviewed.

On Sunday, city spokesman Sergio Belmonte confirmed that Juarez’s police chief had submitted his resignation and said he would be replaced by a military official on leave from the armed forces.

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Join us or die, drug kingpins warn Mexican police

I think that most anyone that has read my blog for very long knows exactly how I feel about Mexico and our unsecured border, I have made no secret of the fact that I have no use for Mexico, it’s citizens or it’s ineffectual army and police, and I really have a problem with the ILLEGAL INVASION that this nation is suffering, so, I am not going to preach on those topics this time, I’m going to give them a bit of rest…

What I’m wanting to do right now is ask a few questions, I hope I get some serious answers:

1. Given the candidates in the running at this time, does your choice for the office of the presidency support a strong and secure border??

2. Does that choice support strong and effective enforcement of the immigration laws of this nation??

3. Does that choice have a viable plan to stop this Mexican drug cartel BS from spilling over the border into our nation??

If you’re supporting John McCain, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, then the answer is a resounding NO!! Just sayin’… :roll:

Are we going to once again settle for appeasers, amnesty supporters, gun grabbers and those that would give the United States of America away in support of a North American Union??

We deserve a lot better America, but we have to take a hard stand and demand that we get that better and stronger government that we should have, we have to demand that the parties run a much higher quality candidate than we are seeing now, we have to demand that the candidates have some real qualifications and not just a great presentation of speech, we can’t just sit back and accept whatever the RNC, the DNC and the MSM tells us is best for us…

We must lose the apathy that has spread over our land, it’s time to think about what’s best for America and who will lead this nation back to the greatness that we, all of us, once took for granted, and we must never again settle for what is perceived to be the lesser of the evils…

And one last question, what are YOU prepared to do, you personally, if this violence does spill over the border and threatens our towns, our homes, our citizens and our way of life??

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Mexico shootout suspects tied to cartel

January 9th, 2008 . by TexasFred

MEXICO CITY - Three U.S. residents and seven others linked to the powerful Gulf drug cartel were arrested following a deadly shootout just across the border from Texas, Mexican officials said Tuesday.

The gunfire, which left three people dead, broke out around noon Monday when Mexican federal agents chased a van full of people carrying assault weapons in the town of Rio Bravo, across the border from Donna, Texas, according to a government statement.

The army and federal police sent reinforcements after the suspects took shelter and began detonating grenades, Federal Public Safety assistant secretary Jose Patricio Patino told reporters Tuesday.

“The armed group that clashed with federal agents yesterday belonged to a cell of the Gulf cartel,” Patino said.

Witnesses described a frightening scene with gunmen breaking down doors and positioning themselves inside homes for the gunbattle, which took place in front of the Rio Bravo police station, The McAllen Monitor reported.

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Mexico shootout suspects tied to cartel

Where did this take place?? Just across the border from Donna, TX., right down there in the heart of the Rio Grande valley.

And how long do you think it’s going to be before these things spill over onto the U.S. side of the border and it’s OUR people being placed in danger by these drug cartels that seem to think that they are above the law?? It’s only been by the grace of God that it hasn’t happened already.

And our borders are STILL pretty much wide open, and who do we thank for that?? Other than George ‘I never met a wetback I didn’t like’ Bush?

Why, the most legendary Lady Lawmaker in Texas history, none other than Miss Kay Bailey Hutchison herself, Immigrant Dream Act Fails Key Senate Vote.

In one vote Miss Kay went from being the toast of Texas to being the trashiest and most talked about, back stabbing turncoat in modern Texas history.

Some Texans didn’t see this story I guess, I was over at Bloviating Zeppelin the other day and saw where one of his readers, a feeble minded old bat that relies on bloggers to give her the news I guess, well, anyway, she was totally shocked that this had happened and she was gonna fire off a nasty letter to Miss Kay ASAP, well over 2 months after the fact, that oughta be pretty effective, don’t you think?

All B.S. aside, we are looking at open warfare on the Texas border every day, and I am pretty sure it’s no better on the New Mexico, Arizona and California borders, although I don’t have any 1st hand knowledge there, but I do know this, the gun battles are coming, fully automatic weapons in the hands of the bad guys, grenades and grenade launchers and they don’t care WHO they kill if they have to fight their was out of an arrest, and for the record, all the gun laws in the world won’t stop this, so any gun grabber that thinks he can insert his libber view of gun laws can just save his time typing and my time deleting, I won’t even attempt to debate anyone foolish enough to come to my blog and talk about this nation needing more gun laws.

We don’t have a President that will protect the USA, we have Senators that shirk their duty to those that elected them, we are being given away wholesale, not just part and parcel, this nation IS being undermined by it’s elected leaders, and I cringe to call Bush a LEADER, he is anything but a leader, but for lack of a better terminology, our leader, Pres. George Bush is off pandering to Palestinians and other assorted Arab trash, trying to make peace in the mid-east, to hell with us here at home, forget all the ILLEGALS that are constantly pouring over the border, never mind the cartels that are a clear and present danger to innocent Americans, men, women and children, just ignore the damage being done to our tax base and the infrastructure of this nation by the INVADERS from the south and the strain the Bush Debacle in Iraq has caused, obviously it’s a lot more important to the Bush administration to kiss and make up with the Palestinians than it is to actually secure our own borders and protect our own people.

Ya know, I hate to think of the carnage that a cartel vs police gun battle on this side of the border would bring but I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts that even if it did happen the Bush administration would look away, say it was a state problem or call it a minor indiscretion.

I’ve often heard that an ounce of prevention was worth a pound of cure but given the ass backwards ways of the sitting POTUS, I seriously doubt he’d even remotely grasp that little tidbit of wisdom.

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Illegal immigrants leaving Arizona

December 22nd, 2007 . by TexasFred

PHOENIX (AP) - Illegal immigrants in Arizona, frustrated with a flagging economy and tough new legislation cracking down on their employers, are returning to their home countries or trying their luck in other states.

For months, immigrants have taken a wait-and-see attitude toward the state’s new employer-sanctions law, which takes effect Jan. 1. The voter-approved legislation is an attempt to lessen the economic incentive for illegal immigrants in Arizona, the busiest crossing point along the U.S.-Mexico border.

And by all appearances, it’s starting to work.

“People are calling me telling me about their friend, their cousin, their neighbors they’re moving back to Mexico,” said Magdalena Schwartz, an immigrant-rights activist and pastor at a Mesa church. “They don’t want to live in fear, in terror.”

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Illegal immigrants leaving Arizona

And this is something bad just how??

Every single state in the nation needs to pass this law, we must make it so tough on employers that the illegals are faced with 2 choices, get legal, which is what they should do in the 1st place, or leave the USA, how simple can it be??

And here’s another little gem for all of you, I preached and howled at this same time last year and no one in a position of authority listened, and I doubt they will this year either, but every wetback in the USA tries to go back to Mexico or wherever for Christmas, they want to spend the holidays with their families, and I think that’s a really nice sentiment too, admirable even, well, there’s something WE need to do at this time of year too…

Close the damned border and shoot any SOB trying to sneak back in

I am guessing that at least half of the 18 million or so WETBACKS in this nation would be denied admission to the USA if we’d act, but the time to act is NOW, put the National Guard on the border, with full combat capabilities and tell em, ANYTHING coming over that border is an ILLEGAL invader, KILL IT!!

Piece of cake, we have dead wetbacks all over the place, now that’s what I call ‘Happy Holidays’!!

If I am to be called ‘racist’, if I am to wear the name, if it makes me a racist to stand up and defend MY nation and to call an illegal invader a wetback, to call them by the only name that truly describes them for what they are, WETBACKS, then you’re damn right, I AM a racist, and I’ll wear the title proudly…

I am filled with holiday cheer, and with love of my fellow citizens, the keyÂword here being: CITIZENS, but I believe that you must take your opportunities when and where you find them, and this is a viable way to remove more illegals, with less effort, than deportation than could ever cover, let em walk out and don’t let em walk back in…

The simplicity of sheer genius… :P

But I have one question about being a racist, when did wetbacks become a race?? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to call me a bigot??

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