Russia orders halt to fighting in Georgia
August 12th, 2008 . by TexasFredTBILISI, Georgia (AP) - Russia ordered a halt to military action in Georgia on Tuesday, after five days of air and land attacks that sent Georgia’s army into headlong retreat and left towns, military bases and homes in the U.S. ally smoldering. Georgia insisted that Russian forces were still bombing and shelling.
Despite the pledge by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, Russia launched an offensive Tuesday in the only part of Abkhazia still under Georgian control. An Associated Press reporter saw 135 Russian military vehicles driving through Georgia en route to Abkhazia’s Kodori Gorge - and Georgian officials said their troops in the gorge were being attacked by Russians.
Abkhazian officials claimed their forces - not the Russians - were carrying out artillery attacks in the Kodori Gorge. Fleeing Georgians said the entire population of the gorge, some 3,000 people, had abandoned their homes - some so quickly they didn’t even grab food or water.
“It feels like an annexed country,” said Lasha Margiana, the local administrator in one of the villages in Kodori.
Full Story Here:
Russia orders halt to fighting in Georgia
I am going to try and simplify this for a few folks that just don’t seem to grasp what is happening in Georgia and South Ossetia.
Both were part of the Soviet Union and Georgia was exercising some degree of control over South Ossetia. They didn’t like it and many of their citizens wanted to go back under the umbrella of Russia and whatever it was that Russia offered them. Georgia didn’t like that idea and it came to blows between Russia and Georgia over the fate of South Ossetia.
This is a business as usual for the folks in that region of the world, and the Russians have more political savvy than most so-called political scientists in THIS nation. The Russians KNOW that we have a powerless, no warfighting MORON in the White House, they KNOW that the U.S. military has been stretched really hard by the *WAR* in Iraq, they know that Iraq has bled us almost to the point that Afghanistan bled them a few years ago.
Bush 41 began the *Destruction of America*, Clinton and the BITCH brought most of it to fruition, and now Jr has all but destroyed the AMERICA I was raised in.
There is NOTHING we can do for Georgia, we don’t have the whereto at this time, and NATO, well, NATO is US, if the U.S. wasn’t paying the bills NATO and the U.N. would cease to exist.
In other words, NATO is a toothless tiger, the goddamned Europeans and the Balkans have always rolled over and gave in to ANY attacker, that’s the way it rolls in that region. Russia has been quietly and patiently rebuilding, because they SAW what we have running the USA, they SEE the libtards that would STILL dismantle our military and Intel services if allowed to. And Russia is doing the only thing they can do, they acted, in what they believe to be THEIR own interest.
Until Great Britain and the USA BOTH grow a set, that’s how it’s gonna go down again.
And as far as growing a set is concerned for the USA, that won’t be happening ANY time in the next 4 years either. We have a Mexican loving POTUS that won’t defend OUR borders and 2 candidates that can’t find their asses with both hands and a set of directions, yet some folks feel we need to step up and defend Georgia?? Â
WE now have the government that WE allowed to come to power, see what happens when you don’t DEMAND the very best and you settle for the *lesser of the evils*?
This whole thing is because the Azeri pipeline was routed through Georgia and not Russia. And Russia wanted that pipeline through it.
So now Georgia is cut in two, Russia has control of the Azeri pipeline and Obama showed the nation how truly inept he is.
Katie, at the risk of PISSING you off, Obama has NO say in this…
This f*ckup, I should say, our inability to respond in a rapid and forceful manner, is ALL Bush 41/Clinton/Bush 43… Lets try placing blame where it truly belongs for a change…
That’s not to say that Obama isn’t inept, because he is, but all he, OR McLame can do right now is talk, they’re NOT the POTUS just yet..
And when one of those bastards DOES become POTUS, Bush will STILL be a MORON and the last 8 years will stand in testament thereof!
Though it’s not even remotely feasible, sometimes I wonder what would occur to the world if the US were to become completely isolationist, pulled her troops, her funding. Heavy sigh. In an ideal world. . .
But, of course, I dream because, obviously, we’d simply TANK.
BZ
I think Katie was talking about Obama saying he would demand a UNSC resolution of which Russia has veto power. Inept is an understatement Katie….
I do agree, Obama and McCain are talkers that’s all, and they can second guess, complain, and play what if’s from now until November. After that they will have to actually produce.
The world will be lucky if Russia decides to stop at Georgia, they really don’t have to. They can pretty much do what they want in that area, if they want they can pull the old Soviet Union back together in a very simple manner, just do it… We can’t stop them for the reasons you mention.
IF Obama wins, there will be massive cuts to the military, so stopping Russia will be out of the question.
IF McCain wins, we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan for a very long time, therefore we won’t have the forces to stop Russia…
So it will be at least 2012 to 2016 before we can help IF we are still even viable.
I think Katie needs to spell it out to be totally honest with you.. It avoids a lotta misunderstanding…
What I meant Fred is a response to how Obama came out at first and showed how inept at foreign affairs he really is. I know he has no say in this, but as a candidate, he showed America how ignorant he really is.
Bush didn’t do that better either. Now if Reagan was POTUS it would have been handled differently. He would have gone to DEFCOM 2, then would have told Putin to pull back or he would go to DEFCOM 1. Many times in the past (Cold War) when the DEFCOM when to a lower number was a way to scare the Russians into doing what we wanted them to do. The Russians understand that we can attack them very easily without using our ground forces. Otherwise this tactic wouldn’t have worked in the past and works now.
Bloviating Zeppelin we tried to be isolation once. It cost us dearly. Over 2000 US military lives at Pearl Harbor. We can’t go back to the past, but we can make our voice heard now. No matter what the governments of the world think, it is the US that their people dream of moving to. Very few people dream the other way around.