I still support Fred D. Thompson, for now…
July 27th, 2007 . by TexasFredI’m a very Conservative, America 1st kind of guy, I live a Conservative lifestyle, I don’t try to tell people what to do, I worked all my life and I am retired, and fairly comfortable, I mind my own business, but I have a real penchant for being a part of critiquing politics and those involved in political campaigns…
Until the last couple of days I was pretty well convinced that Fred D. Thompson was quite likely the best choice we have if we ever expected to seat a real Conservative president again but there are some things that DO give me pause in regards to Mr. Thompson and his method of politicking…
There are many things this nation needs, many issues that must be addressed and some of what Sen. Thompson has said has been very positive, very opinionated and very inspirational, but I have yet to hear Sen. Thompson lay the smack down on anything, and I hate lukewarm politicians…
ILLEGAL immigration and border security is one of the most intense issues facing this nation today, yes, the economy, tax reduction, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and global terrorism are serious issues but ILLEGAL immigration as well as our lack of border security and it’s consequences are at least as important, if not more-so, than any of the other issues we face today…
Fred Thompson has said, in regards to illegal immigration, “The government could start by securing our nation’s borders. A sovereign nation that can’t do that is not a sovereign nation. This is secondarily an immigration issue. It’s primarily a national security issue. We were told twenty years ago if we produced a comprehensive solution, we’d solve the illegal immigration problem. Twelve million illegals later, we’re being told that same thing again. I don’t believe most Americans are as concerned about the 12 million that are here as they are about the next 12 million and the next 12 million after that. I think they’re thinking: ‘Prove you can secure the border and then people of good will can sit down and work out the rest of it, while protecting those folks who play by the rules.’” — Townhall.com May 14, 2007
And I can’t fault this statement in any way other than to say, it sounds great Sen. Thompson, but what are YOU going to do about it if YOU become President of the USA?? A lot of political rhetoric and lukewarm posturing won’t get it done this time Sir, President Bush has created some hard-assed political junkies in this nation, we are folks that have been lied to, used, abused and all around ignored by the very people we elected and we’re tired of it, we are fed up with lies, rhetoric and hollow promises…
Sen. Thompson also said, “We ought to be thinking about the day after Iraq. We have a threat out there like we’ve never faced before. And I don’t think the American people are being apprised of it; I don’t think they realize that this has been something that’s been going on for a few hundred years, and our enemies have another 100-year plan. We have a plan basically to get us through the next election.” — Hannity and Colmes Jun 7, 2007
Sir, we aren’t as stupid as the Bush administration and politicians in general would like to believe, the voters of today are more well informed on the all around issues at hand than ever before, and this time around we’re going to be very demanding, very hard line in what WE want and expect from our elected officials…
Mr. Thompson, don’t beat around the bush, no pun intended, come out STRONG and take a stance in favor of America and her people, her LEGAL residents, tell the voters, nay, PROMISE the voters that YOU will enact every effort possible to totally secure our borders and coastlines and that you will authorize our Immigration and Naturalization Service, as well as Border Patrol and various other allied agencies to begin a roundup of ALL illegals in this nation and that you will authorize the deportation of these illegals, make that promise and carry through WITH that promise and your place in American history is assured for the NEXT 200 years…
Take a look at this ‘testing the waters’ thing, and the ‘the waters are warm’ statement, both sound very down home and folksy, if you want to pull a frat-boy prank and make your buddy piss his pants, forget that, warm hell, get ‘em boiling, your voter support is there and can easily grow even stronger if you get a HARDLINE message out there that leaves NO wiggle room, with no way for the Dems and libs to interpret what you said and MEANT, in any way other than what YOU intend for your message to be, take away every avenue of attack and the Dems will fall in defeat, make solemn promises to the Republicans and Conservatives of this nation and you will take this election in a landslide, if you take a 100% America 1st stance Sir, abandon ANY idea of globalism or open borders, and if you promise to secure this nation as it should have been done immediately after the attacks of 9-11, and if you follow through on those promises, you will be remembered as a legendary figure in American political history…
Fail to do this and the only way you’ll see the White House is on a visitors pass…
I still support Fred D. Thompson in a bid for the White House, at least for now, even though this naming of Spencer Abraham gives me great pause, until I see and hear a bit more my support will stay with Fred D. Thompson, but there is one thing Sen. Thompson needs to keep in mind, lukewarm doesn’t get the vote, and sitting around making vague statements won’t get the job done…
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I’m sorry to say that Thompson’s record on immigration doesn’t really match his ‘bite.’ It’s not much different than John McCain’s. http://www.congressgrades.com
I really just can not support him, and that was before this Spencer Abraham thing when I saw his record on minimum wage, affirmative action, trade, and especially immigration. Maybe he can pull it together, at least he’s not flip flopping and he’s keeping his mouth shut about the aforementioned…
If F.T. does do as you suggest, I’ll plaster banners and signs all over my hood.
I doubt he will ever be that “Matter of fact” NO politician will.
I will reserve my FULL support until I hear some of his plans.
I am hopeful he will run, if nothing else it makes the rest of the rino’s nervous and the dems get scared.
We’ll all just have to wait and see what he does. I’m afaid I don’t like what he has done up to now but I’ll wait and see what happens.
I will not endorse anyone this early in the game.
I was with Thompson early but then he hired his first Bush person and he lost me for know.
Well stated commentary Texas Fred. Immigration is the one issue that Thompson may be able to make such a hardline statement. It will depend on how he positions it. If it is a “secure our borders” statement without addressing what to do with illegals currently in our country, he will probably alienate only a small part of the electorate but will secure a larger portion of it. If his hardline includes immediate deportation, he will likely lose the race although he will cement the vote of the right. It is a political tightrope that he must walk.
Unfortunately, I think that Fred Thompson is “hedging his bet” because he can. At this point, I am uncertain as to what precise direction he shall run — will he run True North?
He is one of two things:
The Maestro of Timing;
OR
Toying with the GOP and its underestimated Conservative Base.
I would suggest this to Mr. Thompson:
If we discover that you were not serious or we as Conservatives were nothing more than stepping stones to an inconclusive or noncommittal or halfhearted move for the Presidency — well — we tend to have a rather long memory, sir.
There are many persons hoping that you ARE what you, at first blush, appear to be, sir:
A mature politician;
With gravitas;
With credibility;
With a slow-to-anger mien;
With the requisite training, education and experience to provide a dignified, considered, logical and common-sensical vision for America
Yes, there is much hope for you at the Conservative Base.
Count ME into this base.
We oh-so-hope that you are actual Substance and NOT perceived Conservative Style.
We are, however, mightily concerned that you have not yet clearly expressed that you are willing to fish AND cut bait.
BZ
Time will tell. I think Fred should change this choice. It would not be a sign of weakness at all, but of responsiveness to the one-half of the country that would support his candidacy. He’ll have to work for the other 2 or 3 percent, but he damn well better not do it by trying to cater to Islamists or Open Borders communists!
D. Ox
This is a really sad commentary. Did the candidate who gave vast hope to the right suddenly make a violent left turn to bring himself to center?
I will be looking for a message that will confirm the candidate we all eagerly seek, but I fear it is only a myth.
ablur, I know the feeling. I was a Fredhead when I first started to hear rumors of the campaign. I’m from Tennesee, and thus knew who he was as a politician as well as an actor. I changed my mind when I saw his votes on immigration in the past (very similar to John McCain’s), minimum wage, how he voted not to impeach clinton, campaign finance reform, etc…. I honestly think Duncan Hunter is everyone people have thought Fred is and then some. But that’s my opinion. I highly encourage us all to look more closely at fred. Read voting records, grades from grassroot groups, etc… and look at it meticulously. We don’t want the elect someone who will continue to sell of the GOP into a moderate party. And we also should take a lesson from the Kennedy-McCain immigration bill. The people can stand up for what they believe in if they so choose. If we find someone who is currently in the lower-tier and consider them the right man (IMHO, Duncan H.), we can really do something about it! Don’t give up hope!
-SK
Regardless of his track record, I’m still supporting Fred. I feel he has the constitution to do what is right for this country, as opposed to the other candidates. I’m looking for a President that carries a big stick…I hope I’m voting for the right man.
IF. and I mean IF,,,Fred chooses an arab to run his campaign, I am outta here. All arabs have made lying an “art form”. Spencer Abraham is an ARAB, and once an arab, always an arab.
Remember that.
So, the question is: does Fred Thompson promote an arab as his official spokesman??
Sincerely, mrchuck of Gun Barrel City, Texas.
” we are folks that have been lied to, used, abused and all around ignored by the very people we elected and we’re tired of it, we are fed up with lies, rhetoric and hollow promises…” Very well said , I’m tired of politicians who talk out of both sides of their mouths. I thought Fred was (and may still be) a true conservative, but time will tell. I will still support FT unless and until he, as Ablur said,”suddenly makes a violent left turn to bring himself to center.” We have more rino’s in Washington than an African safari, we don’t need one more. But as I said time will tell.
Well said TexasFred. I would add that I too want SPECIFICS and not the same rhetoric that we have heard from so many who have not delivered. Bush talked a good game and then ignored us. And I do not yet hear any response from Fred Thompson as to TexasFred’s, and our, questions. Where is the response or is this another “no response” politician???
I want to see Thompson or any other SERIOUS candidte make a vow to:
strictly follow the constitution,
VIGOROUSLY enforce our current immigration laws including employer penalties,
secure our US/Mexico border and our ports,
NOT operate justice as a political tool (like the Gestapo),
drop the unconstitutional and extra-legal North American Union (SPP) plan,
remind the Supreme court that we operate by US, not international, law,
rework or kill NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA treaties that decimate the middleclass,
reinvigorate the FDA so we have a safe food supply,
stop federal government being run only to the benefit of BIG business,
spend tax dollars on the US instead of everywhere else.
It would be amazing to have a president and administration whose first thought is “what is best for America” instead of every other possible consideration being more important. We have 100% critical problems in our nation plus a badly aging infrastructure that has been ignored for the last 50+ years. Our tax dollars are supposed to be for our benefit, not the UN, not some other nation, and not for international game playing.
Let’s see what Thompson has to say about that, or, whether he will even address it at all. I suspect we will hear just more silence or empty rhetoric.
I think it is too early to draw conclusions on Thompson’s decision about Abraham.
Sbeene,
I know I’m getting to be a broken record, but you just described everything Fred has NOT been according to his voting record, and everything Duncan Hunter is. He has always been against NAFTA, and has a perfect immigration record according to Americans for Better Immigraion, and he has been working against the superhighway (he wrote the bill to stop it), and working against the SPP.
Fred voted to expand NAFTA, for lowering penalties on compaines that hire illegals, for amnesty, has a C from Americans for Better Immigration…etc…
I will say one thing, the silence I hear from the Thompson camp, the lack of DIRECTLY speaking on ANY subject, the constant use of vague rhetoric, that lack of definitive commitment is deafening…
And very disconcerting, for me anyway…
Fred is pro free trade,pro big-business, hence pro immigration. Sorry, I thought he was my candidate too. Unless he clears up these issues he won’t get my vote. BTW increasing minimum wage increases inflation and the gap between ultra rich and ultra poor.