White House appears ready to drop ‘public option’
August 16th, 2009 . by TexasFredWhite House appears ready to drop ‘public option’
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama’s administration signaled on Sunday it is ready to abandon the idea of giving Americans the option of government-run health insurance as part of his ambitious health care proposal.
Facing mounting opposition to the overhaul, administration officials left open the chance for a compromise with Republicans that would include health insurance cooperatives. Such a concession is likely to enrage his liberal supporters but could deliver Obama a much-needed win on a top domestic priority opposed by GOP lawmakers.
Officials from both political parties reached across the aisle in an effort to find compromises on proposals they left behind when they returned to their districts for an August recess.
Obama has been pressing for the government to run a health insurance organization to help cover the nation’s almost 50 million uninsured, but Republicans remain steadfast in arguing against it.
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White House appears ready to drop ‘public option’
Don’t start cheering just yet American Conservatives, appearances can be deceiving.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that government alternative to private health insurance is “not the essential element” of the administration’s health care overhaul. The White House would be open to co-ops, she said, a sign that Democrats want a compromise so they can declare a victory on the showdown.
It’s NOT about health care America. It’s not about what’s right for you and me, our friends and family and ALL legal American citizens. It’s about political posturing and VICTORY!
Victory for Obama and Company. An administration that came roaring in like a socialist lion and is sinking like a rock. Any concession from Obama is nothing more than a desperate attempt to achieve some type of victory, ANY type of victory, before they move on to their next diabolical plot. And I shudder to think what that plan may be.
Such a concession is likely to enrage his liberal supporters but could deliver Obama a much-needed win on a top domestic priority opposed by GOP lawmakers.
I can see how this would tend to inflame the moonbats that support Obama and all of his Obamanure. They want Obama and Company to take total control of this nation and they want to see all Conservatives put in their proper place. Locked away in prison if any of the current rumors floating around the ‘net are even remotely correct.
As I said, this is about victory. Be it real or imagined, Obama is needing a huge victory over the GOP and Conservatives right about now. Last week his poll numbers were at 47%. Obama is a man that governs according to poll numbers. Much like Bill Clinton. If the poll numbers are down, let’s bomb an aspirin factory or a baby formula plant, it looks great on MSNBC and makes them look like they’re actually doing something.
So far, Obama hasn’t resorted to that, yet. But I am thinking he will. Jimmy Carter resorted to desperation moves, anything to make it look like HE was doing something. Does anyone remember the hostage taking in Iran? How about the most ill-conceived and poorly planned rescue attempt in American history? Operation Eagle Claw
Carter, for all of his faults as a President, looks pretty good compared to Obama, and I personally detest Jimmy Carter. The handling of the Iranian situation if the main reason that Carter was a one term POTUS.
And before the assorted moonbat libbers that DO read here go crazy and mess themselves, yes, I DO know that George W. Bush wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. He made terrible gaffs in his speech. He wasn’t an economics whiz kid. He was, in my opinion, a terrible military leader.
After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Bush took us to war in Afghanistan against the Taliban, and rightly so I believe. American support was huge, Bush was highly popular and things were going very well, then Bush took us to Iraq in early 2003.
Some folks were immediately opposed to going to war with Iraq, I was one of them. I didn’t believe that Saddam was a supporter of the attacks of 9-11. I was convinced that the only weapons of mass destruction that Saddam possessed were used against the Kurds many years before. Had Saddam still been in possession of WMDs, I believe he would have employed them in defense of Iraq and Baghdad in particular, and I personally could give a damn less about Iraqi freedom. I was, and am still fully convinced that we have much more serious matters at hand than the liberation of a nation that is already imploding upon itself.
In any case, Bush was re-elected to a 2nd term, without engaging in any moves that could be called desperate. The American people sent him back to the White House but his actions over the next 2 years cost him, and us, dearly. His approval rating went down into the 30% range, he lost control of the Republican Congress and Senate, and his actions, coupled with the inability of the RNC to actually LEAD, led to the election of Barack Hussein Obama.
I don’t write these words to denigrate George W. Bush, I write them to make a point.
Jimmy Carter was a miserable failure and he was a one term wonder. Bush was less than stellar, yet he went on to serve 2 terms, even if that 2nd term did cost this nation dearly and lead to the current debacle in D.C.
Americans don’t suffer fools lightly. Barack Hussein Obama is an egotistical fool and it is my opinion that he too will be a one term wonder. The biggest problem that we are faced with at this time is keeping the damage that he does to a minimum, and then getting the GOP/RNC to actually present a candidate for the office of president that can WIN. One that can LEAD and that is sustainable in the office. If the GOP sends us another RINO, as they did in the last election in the person of John McCain, then the issue is seriously in question, as is the future and survival of this nation.
We can survive Obama, IF we can keep him and his evil minions in check. We can survive as long as we don’t weaken and become apathetic. We can survive as long as we fail to accept the socialist manifesto of Obama and Company. But make no mistake about it American, we can’t survive if we let Obama serve a 2nd term, and we won’t be any better off if we accept a 2nd rate RINO as a legitimate candidate again.
Some folks seemed to think that because John McCain is as old as he is, as experienced as he is and he was a POW in Vietnam, that he would make an excellent POTUS. Old doesn’t matter, there are many OLD FOOLS. Experience? McCain has been a wishy-washy RINO for as long as I can remember, we don’t need ANY RINOs in office, anywhere, local, state or national.
And electing him because he was a POW? I know many that felt that was a great reason. Personally, I am proud of McCain for his service to America, I sympathize with the suffering and pain he was forced to endure and I honestly feel that pain and suffering are in NO WAY qualifiers for the office of POTUS.
It’s not too early to be interviewing potential candidates for the 2012 presidential election. The 2010 midterms are the most important thing on the horizon, and recapturing the House and Senate must be at the forefront of every effort, but don’t let up on Obama and his madness. And don’t forget the errors of the past either.
Those that don’t LEARN from history, are DOOMED to repeat it!
You’re right Fred! We are in desperate need of good conservatives to step up. I was not happy with the things Bush allowed to happen. Especially the illegal immigration problem in this country. I have no problem with someone coming here legally, my relatives came from Ireland, Israel and Germany legally. I think that is one of the biggest problem with the health care system. I voted for McCain, but it was basically voting for the lesser of two evils. I would love to see Sarah Palin run for VP again! Hopefully 2010 will be the comeback for the republicans!
My fraternal grandfather came here from Canada, legally..
Sarah Palin?? If she’s the best we can come up with, we have more OBAMANURE to deal with than we need to…
I don’t vote for QUITTERS!
I know Sarah Palin quit, but I really like what she stands for politically and she has done some good for Alaska. But, I hear ya, I didn’t think of it that way, we do need someone who will stick and not give up!
Yeah, she quit! The pressure was too much as the Governor of ALASKA?? So she QUIT??
How can anyone tout this woman as a credible candidate for ANYTHING??
The pressures of being POTUS are going to be 100 fold compared to where she has been, and where she has QUIT…
America needs to wake the hell up and realize that QUITTERS are NOT going to save this nation, and Drama Queen QUITTERS have NO credibility.
If she quit Alaska because the going got too tough, what would she do to America?? The going WILL be tough for the next POTUS, no matter who it is…
Health co-ops are BS if they are going to be funded with govt money. If the govt funds it , the govt controls it just like GM and AIG. Co-ops are an end run around the dumb ass GOP. What’s needed are reforms to the present system such as allowing health plans to be sold across state lines and more fraud and waste control for Medicare and Medicaid. Its still all about power, control and more taxes.
@minuteman26: EXACTLY! Each and every word…
I know the White House has tentatively agreed to accept health care “insurance�? reform w/o a public option, but we need to watch this very carefully as they are talking about a “cooperative�?. We cannot be sure what they mean until we the people see any new proposal BEFORE it is approved.
Whether you like Sarah Palin or not she did get the “death panel�? section removed. While this section did not specifically call it a death panel, the implication was there and if things are not specifically prohibited then they tend to be allowed especially in an activist-judge court. Bureaucrats and your doctor will “talk�? to you about “end of life�? issues and the doctor is reimbursed for this but not for certain medical procedures so you have to wonder about the “intent�?. When we the people brought this section up at townhall meetings most legislators either denied or ignored this provision. Grassley has now said that this provision would not be in any new bill.
The RNC had better get its head out of its butt or they will never win anything. As Ann Coulter has repeatedly said the republicans win WHEN they adhere to their principles and they lose when they try to change to accommodate the “media�?. This debt is unsustainable and the RNC must propose a plan to reduce the debt and get people back to work!
Crap is crap, no matter what they call it.
Sarah Palin got lucky and her timing was good, one *Awww Shit* wipes out several *atta boy* awards, and she committed the biggest *Awww Shit* a politician can make when she quit…
This isn’t about Palin and I would seriously like to see her name dropped from this thread if folks don’t mind, she was NOT in my post anywhere… Freedom of speech and me being fair and balanced, I let the 1st comment stand and contested it, I don’t intend this thread to be a Palin cheering section or a bash fest…
But as previously said, I DON’T VOTE FOR QUITTERS!
And it ALL stinks!
Minuteman26 hit the nail right on the head. It’s an end run around and he’s not going to give up. If necessary, he’ll piecemeal it in.
I can’t add a whole lot to what’s already been said. I will however say this. healthcare is a big distraction, a really big one. Now, just what else is going on while we are all concentrating on this..?
It is called “incrementalism.” Getting what you want one piece at a time rather than the whole thing all at once. The socialists have used it for decades and THAT is what Obama is proposing right now with the HEALTH INSURANCE COOPERATIVES! We cannot afford to allow them to get away with it. We have to lean on them even harder than we have in the past few days.
Keep up the pressure everybody. We ain’t winning yet, but, at least, we have slowed their momentum!
JDL
I’m inclined to agree with Patrick. I’ve been wondering what they’ve been up to behind the scenes while we’re all concentrating on stopping this fiasco called ‘health care’.
No more Sarah Palin, huh? OK
Vigilante, I have heard all I can stand about that woman, it just gets to me once in a while… So many people think she’s Joan of Arc, and she’s nothing but a QUITTER that couldn’t take the pressure…
It saddens me when I see people that are otherwise great, smart and dedicated Conservatives falling for this Palin stuff.. Sorry… I just don’t buy into it!
If the government attempts to do anything with healthcare it should be to fix it not swap it or dismantle it. I have already listed out what needs fixing but nobody is talking about those issues.
These are pure socialists looking for another rung on the ladder. They will take an inch at a time if that is all they can get.
Keep the full court press on.
Hi Fred - ‘Can’t agree more about dropping Palin from this thread - not in context. Perhaps the real “public option” is simply voting OUT anyone who votes in favor of any of this crap. the congresscritters might be catching on .
Dropping the public option is a good start. Hopefully in his quest to gain a victory over the Republicans he will alienate the liberals who want the public option to remain.