Joe Horn cleared by grand jury in Pasadena shootings
June 30th, 2008 . by TexasFredA Harris County grand jury decided today that Joe Horn should not be charged with a crime for shooting two suspected burglars he confronted outside his neighbor’s home in Pasadena last fall.
The decision to clear Horn of wrongdoing came two weeks after the grand jury began considering evidence in the case, including Horn’s testimony last week.
Horn, a 62-year-old retiree, became the focus of an intense public debate after the Nov. 14 shootings. Many supporters praised him as a hero for using deadly force to protect property, while others dismissed him as a killer who should have heeded a 911 operator’s instructions to stay in his house and wait for police.
Horn called authorities after hearing breaking glass and seeing two men climb through a window into his next-door neighbor’s home in the 7400 block of Timberline.
The 911 operator urged Horn to remain inside, but he went outside with his 12-gauge shotgun and came face-to-face with Diego Ortiz, 30, and Hernando Riascos Torres, 38.
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Joe Horn cleared by grand jury in Pasadena shootings
Make no mistake about it, I am very happy that Mr. Horn is not going to be charged with any crime, but I feel this action sets a new precedent here in Texas, simply because of this one line in the story: Ortiz and Torres died a short distance from Horn’s house, both shot in the back.
OK, I understand these 2 had burglarized a residence, I completely understand that they were bad guys and their leaving this world was no loss to ANY of us, and I am fine with that.
Here’s the part I just don’t understand, I know that if I feel my life is in danger from a person or persons in the commission of a crime, in my home or on my property, the Castle Doctrine reigns supreme, that part I DO understand, but how was Horn’s life threatened?? If BOTH of these burglars were shot in the back, HOW could they have presented ANY kind of life threatening, clear and present danger to Mr. Horn?
I am, and have been, of the opinion that Mr. Horn made a horrific mistake by placing himself in the position he did, he was told, specifically
According to a transcript of Horn’s 911 call, which he made about 2 p.m., the operator repeatedly urged Horn to stay in his house, but Horn said he did not believe it would be right to let the burglars get away.
“Well, here it goes, buddy,” Horn can be heard telling the operator. “You hear the shotgun clicking and I’m going.”
The operator replies: “Don’t go outside.”
That’s one of the things that still bugs me about this whole thing, as I said, I don’t mourn the loss of the 2 burglars, but they were guilty of burglary, not rape or murder, and even if they HAD committed a rape or murder, Horn had no way of knowing that, all he knew for a certain fact was that the 2 had made entry into his neighbors dwelling, thus, he assumed it was a burglary in progress.
I guess what this ruling has done is set the stage for Texas home owners to become judge, jury and executioner, it’s going to be very interesting to see how the next case turns out, in somewhere other than Harris county.
Why hell, if WE can kill em ourselves, why bother with calling the police? Look at the money we could save if all the cops had to do was come clean up the mess, there’s very little expense incurred to remove dead bodies, just call the *meat wagon* and they’ll send out 2 attendants, scoop up the garbage in a body bag and tote it off for you, and there’s no court costs.
Ya know, all things considered, if the interpretation is applied correctly, this could turn into a good thing after all.
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