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AP Exclusive: CIA whisked detainees from Gitmo

August 6th, 2010 . by TexasFred

AP Exclusive: CIA whisked detainees from Gitmo

WASHINGTON (AP) - Four of the nation’s most highly valued terrorist prisoners were secretly moved to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2003, years earlier than has been disclosed, then whisked back into overseas prisons before the Supreme Court could give them access to lawyers, The Associated Press has learned.

The transfer allowed the U.S. to interrogate the detainees in CIA “black sites” for two more years without allowing them to speak with attorneys or human rights observers or challenge their detention in U.S. courts. Had they remained at the Guantanamo Bay prison for just three more months, they would have been afforded those rights.

“This was all just a shell game to hide detainees from the courts,” said Jonathan Hafetz, a Seton Hall University law professor who has represented several detainees.

Removing them from Guantanamo Bay underscores how worried President George W. Bush’s administration was that the Supreme Court might lift the veil of secrecy on the detention program. It also shows how insistent the Bush administration was that terrorists must be held outside the U.S. court system.

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Worried the Supreme Court would lift the veil of secrecy on the detention program?

Seriously? That’s the best you guys at AP can come up with?

Years later, the program’s legacy continues to complicate President Barack Obama’s efforts to prosecute the terrorists behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Yes, it does complicate Barack Hussein Obama’s efforts to prosecute the terrorists responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. It makes it a difficult task for Obama to give his Muslim brothers the same rights as a U.S. citizen. It makes it a lot more difficult for Eric Holder to find some loophole that will allow him to release these Islamic terrorists!

The arrival and speedy departure from Guantanamo were pieced together by the AP using flight records and interviews with current and former U.S. officials and others familiar with the CIA’s detention program. All spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the program.

Did any of you ever watch a movie called *A Few Good Men*?

The lead character is a bleeding heart wuss lawyer and he used the flight records from Gitmo to Washington, D.C. as the basis for his analysis into the habits of Col. Jessup. I think someone at the top of THIS investigation may have actually watched that movie and may have paid some attention. It sounds like this AP story was written by a Hollywood screen writer to me.

Top officials at the White House, Justice Department, Pentagon and CIA consulted on the prisoner transfer, which was so secretive that even many people close to the CIA detention program were kept in the dark.

Keeping people in the dark is what the CIA does. It’s what makes the CIA a viable and useful group of people. It’s what keeps them alive and what keeps this nation, and some of OUR little secrets safe. Again, I think someone may have been watching the movies or reading the comic strip Doonesbury.

When we, as a nation, and a government, have become so politically correct, so afraid of world opinion, that we place the comfort and care of a terrorist above the safety of our nation, our people, our troops and our way of life, I am forced to say that America has surely lost it’s way.

Before dawn on Sept. 24, 2003, a white, unmarked Boeing 737 landed at Guantanamo Bay. At least four al-Qaida operatives, some of the CIA’s biggest captures to date, were aboard: Abu Zubaydah, Abd al-Nashiri, Ramzi Binalshibh and Mustafa al-Hawsawi.

Well, that’s reassuring, a white, unmarked Boeing 737. For a very long time now we have been told, repeatedly, by the moonbats and tin foil hat crowd on the left that the CIA used BLACK, unmarked helicopters. :twisted:

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Former Gitmo detainees help al-Qaida grow in Yemen

January 2nd, 2010 . by TexasFred

Former Gitmo detainees help al-Qaida grow in Yemen

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) - As a prisoner at Guantanamo, Said Ali al-Shihri said he wanted freedom so he could go home to Saudi Arabia and work at his family’s furniture store.

Instead, al-Shihri, who was released in 2007 under the Bush administration, is now deputy leader of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, a group that has claimed responsibility for the Christmas Day attempted bomb attack on a Detroit-bound airliner.

His potential involvement in the terrorist plot has raised new opposition to releasing Guantanamo Bay inmates, complicating President Barack Obama’s pledge to close the military prison in Cuba. It also highlights the challenge of identifying the hard-core militants as the administration decides what to do with the remaining 198 prisoners.

Like other former Guantanamo detainees who have rejoined al-Qaida in Yemen, al-Shihri, 36, won his release despite jihadist credentials such as, in his case, urban warfare training in Afghanistan.

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He was released during the administration of George W. Bush. How about that? And do you suppose that Obama will learn ANY lesson from the mistakes of his immediate predecessor?

He later goaded the United States, saying Guantanamo only strengthened his anti-American convictions.

“By God, our imprisonment has only increased our persistence and adherence to our principles,” he said in a speech when al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula formed in Yemen in January 2009. It was included in a propaganda film for the group.

As I have said before, on numerous occasions, we can’t make these radical Muslims hate us any MORE. We might as well make the most of it, make war on them and kill as many as we can so they don’t kill us. And killing US is their express intent.

Their convictions? Their beliefs? Very easy to explain actually, Kill the Infidels, Surah 9:5.

That is from their bible, the Quran. Now I don’t about you, but if someone is threatening to KILL me and my family, I am going to do anything and everything in my power to stop that from happening.

George W. Bush was just as big a PC idiot as Barack Hussein Obama. Only a fool would release these animals and give them a chance to attack us once more. Only a bigger fool would think of bringing them into the USA and placing them on trial here. That move could very well be done to afford these terrorists and jihadists the rights enjoyed by American citizens, thus affording them and easiest time at trial. I would not be the least bit surprised if that was not the true desire OD Barack Hussein Obama.

It seems that Obama and Company look upon our attackers as criminals and not as terrorists. I am of the opinion that Obama is making a terrible mistake in that.

Al-Shihri and another Saudi released from Guantanamo in 2006, Ibrahim Suleiman al-Rubaish, appear to have played significant roles in al-Qaida’s expanding offshoot in Yemen. While the extent of any involvement in the airliner plot is unclear, al-Rubaish, 30, is a theological adviser to the group and his writings and sermons are prominent in the group’s literature.

Islamic warriors with an even more intense hatred for us? And these are the guys that Obama is worried that we might *offend*?

Even if we sat back and did nothing, even if we brought every troop home and minded nothing but our business within the continental USA, if another American never set foot in a Muslim land, the people of Islam would still hate us and still seek to kill us. It’s what they do.

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