AP Exclusive: CIA whisked detainees from Gitmo

WASHINGTON (AP) - Four of the nation’s most highly valued terrorist prisoners were secretly moved to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2003, years earlier than has been disclosed, then whisked back into overseas prisons before the Supreme Court could give them access to lawyers, The Associated Press has learned.

The transfer allowed the U.S. to interrogate the detainees in CIA “black sites” for two more years without allowing them to speak with attorneys or human rights observers or challenge their detention in U.S. courts. Had they remained at the Guantanamo Bay prison for just three more months, they would have been afforded those rights.

“This was all just a shell game to hide detainees from the courts,” said Jonathan Hafetz, a Seton Hall University law professor who has represented several detainees.

Removing them from Guantanamo Bay underscores how worried President George W. Bush’s administration was that the Supreme Court might lift the veil of secrecy on the detention program. It also shows how insistent the Bush administration was that terrorists must be held outside the U.S. court system.

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AP Exclusive: CIA whisked detainees from Gitmo

Worried the Supreme Court would lift the veil of secrecy on the detention program?

Seriously? That’s the best you guys at AP can come up with?

Years later, the program’s legacy continues to complicate President Barack Obama’s efforts to prosecute the terrorists behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Yes, it does complicate Barack Hussein Obama’s efforts to prosecute the terrorists responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. It makes it a difficult task for Obama to give his Muslim brothers the same rights as a U.S. citizen. It makes it a lot more difficult for Eric Holder to find some loophole that will allow him to release these Islamic terrorists!

The arrival and speedy departure from Guantanamo were pieced together by the AP using flight records and interviews with current and former U.S. officials and others familiar with the CIA’s detention program. All spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the program.

Did any of you ever watch a movie called *A Few Good Men*?

The lead character is a bleeding heart wuss lawyer and he used the flight records from Gitmo to Washington, D.C. as the basis for his analysis into the habits of Col. Jessup. I think someone at the top of THIS investigation may have actually watched that movie and may have paid some attention. It sounds like this AP story was written by a Hollywood screen writer to me.

Top officials at the White House, Justice Department, Pentagon and CIA consulted on the prisoner transfer, which was so secretive that even many people close to the CIA detention program were kept in the dark.

Keeping people in the dark is what the CIA does. It’s what makes the CIA a viable and useful group of people. It’s what keeps them alive and what keeps this nation, and some of OUR little secrets safe. Again, I think someone may have been watching the movies or reading the comic strip Doonesbury.

When we, as a nation, and a government, have become so politically correct, so afraid of world opinion, that we place the comfort and care of a terrorist above the safety of our nation, our people, our troops and our way of life, I am forced to say that America has surely lost it’s way.

Before dawn on Sept. 24, 2003, a white, unmarked Boeing 737 landed at Guantanamo Bay. At least four al-Qaida operatives, some of the CIA’s biggest captures to date, were aboard: Abu Zubaydah, Abd al-Nashiri, Ramzi Binalshibh and Mustafa al-Hawsawi.

Well, that’s reassuring, a white, unmarked Boeing 737. For a very long time now we have been told, repeatedly, by the moonbats and tin foil hat crowd on the left that the CIA used BLACK, unmarked helicopters.

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NJ men accused in Somali terror plot due in court

ELMWOOD PARK, N.J. (AP) - The young men’s intentions were sinister, investigators say: to head to Somalia to seek terror training from al-Qaida-affiliated jihadists and unleash attacks against fellow Americans.

But their preparations apparently were unsophisticated. They lifted weights, bought military-style pants, tried paintball, played violent video games and watched terrorist videos online, authorities said.

They had no known connections to terrorist groups, and their planned trip to Somalia apparently amounted to a leap of faith that they’d be embraced by the jihadists.

When the two New Jersey men tried to fly Saturday from New York’s Kennedy Airport to Egypt and then continue on to Somalia, investigators who had been following them for years were waiting at their gates, according to federal officials in New Jersey and the New York Police Department.

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Hang ‘em. In public. On a Court House Square. Prime Time TV.

Make an example of ‘em and then continue doing this with every one of them that comes out of the wood work! I don’t care if they are U.S. citizens, if they attempt to join, or are actually successful in joining a known terror organization, HANG ‘EM. They are traitors to this nation.

On June 3rd I posted this piece, Officials: U.S. believes Gaza blockade untenable, and in my closing remarks I made this statement, “If American citizens were on ANY boat carrying supplies to Palestine, they need to be sunk right along with the rest of the garbage.”

Apparently there are some leftist, terrorist loving trolls that disagree.

Some seem to think it’s OK to be a terrorist I suppose, and maybe I am “agitating for the death of fellow Americans“, perhaps that’s how the left looks at it, terrorists as “a fellow American”.

All I see is a lump of garbage that needs to be tossed out. Right along with the leftist bloggers that believe these people are our “fellow Americans“.

I won’t link to the meathead making remarks like that, he’s not worthy of a link, but if someone actually doubts the validity of my above quote, email me, I’ll link you there and you can go swim in the cesspool and see for yourself!

When the two New Jersey men tried to fly Saturday from New York’s Kennedy Airport to Egypt and then continue on to Somalia, investigators who had been following them for years were waiting at their gates, according to federal officials in New Jersey and the New York Police Department.

Mohamed Mahmood Alessa, 20, and Carlos Eduardo Almonte, 24, are accused of trying to join al-Shabab, which was designated by the U.S. as a terrorist group in 2008. They face charges of conspiring to kill, maim and kidnap persons outside the United States by joining al-Shabab.

Alessa and Almonte were scheduled to appear Monday in federal court in Newark.

If convicted, they could face life in prison.

Life in prison? Sure, send them to prison so they can be further trained by radicals already in place. Send them to Federal prison and let them enjoy 3 square meals, medical care, a place to sleep, all the amenities that they so don’t deserve. Oh, and let us pay for it, for years to come.

I have a very cost effective solution I wish to offer, as opposed to life in prison.

2 potential terrorists, 2 short pieces of rope, a tall tree, a long fall. Some assembly required. The problem is removed in an expedient manner.

Authorities say they recorded Alessa and Almonte talking about attacking Americans. Alessa allegedly said he would outdo Maj. Nidal Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, last year.

“He’s not better than me. I’ll do twice what he did,” Alessa was recorded saying, according to court documents.

Hollow words from these guys? Maybe. False bravado? Perhaps, but who knows? Are you willing to take a chance that maybe, hopefully, they are just *trash talking* and are basically harmless idiots? I’m not!

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Alan Caruba is one of the best Conservative writers I have ever seen. He writes with style, he writes responsibly and he speaks the truth in ALL matters.

Read his work regularly here: Warning Signs

By Alan Caruba

I keep wondering when the world is going to begin to take Islamic terrorism seriously.

The world’s leaders and, in particular, the media could begin by calling it “Islamic�? or “Muslim�? terrorism. The media were, of course, thrilled to discover that America had a small band of homegrown nut cases, a Christian militia arrested before they did some serious harm. That’s the kind of thing that happens when the president and the government begins to be regarded as the anti-Christ.

I liked Vladimir Putin’s response to the Moscow bombings. He said of those responsible, “We will destroy them.�?

The suicide bombers in Moscow will no doubt be identified—there was video of their entering the station—and an efficient national security apparatus will find out who they are, who their family is, who their friends are, and invite them in for some interrogation. They are not likely to be read Miranda rights, nor will their lawyers be present.

The reason for this is that they are potentially all terrorists.
America has been devoted to treating the terrorists we captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq as humanely as possible. Those incarcerated at Guantanamo were given copies of the Koran, their dietary laws were observed, ACLU and other lawyers were permitted access to advise them of their “rights.�? Under the Geneva Convention, however, they are exempt from the rules of war and have no rights as combatants.

The Attorney General of the United States of America, a former resident of La-La Land, didn’t think it was the least bit odd to suggest trying Khalid Sheik Muhammad, the 9/11 mastermind, in a civil court in the heart of New York City.

Any number of the Gitmo detainees have been returned to their homelands and have since turned up on the battlefield again. This suggests we do not take terrorists seriously. These are, after all, people who cut the heads off of other people.

Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security has an odd notion of who poses a threat to the nation. They identified “right-wing extremists�? as their primary concern, particularly those who express concern about the central government’s expansion, opponents of abortion, opponents of illegal immigration, and “disgruntled�? veterans returning from the battlefront. No mention of left-wing extremists.

The first rule of war is “know your enemy.�? In the space of a decade, they have shown up in New York, London, Madrid, Bali, Mumbai, and in Moscow; all killing civilians indiscriminately on buses, on trains, in subways, in skyscrapers, and at resorts. Before that, they devoted themselves to kidnapping Americans in Lebanon and blowing up two of our embassies in Africa.

From the streets of Paris where Muslims rioted at will to Malmo, Sweden where attacks on local Jews are driving them to leave the country, the story is always the same. Wherever Muslims become a sufficient number of the population, they begin to make demands, harass the locals, and in the Netherlands to murder an outspoken opponent of Islam in broad daylight. The Dutch response has been to put on trial a man who is warning of these dangers.

The British cannot accommodate them enough, while the French have decided it is far better to be French than Muslim, passing several laws to protect their cultural traditions and society.

The impact on Americans has mostly been to turn a trip to the airport into a complete nightmare, but few other restrictions have interfered with their normal activities. Despite valiant efforts by our border patrol, our southern border goes largely unprotected. The insane murder rate from the drug wars in Mexico will arrive any day now in the U.S.A.

The small U.S. Muslim population has been free of harassment, but the organizations claiming to speak for them have all been identified as having links to the Muslim Brotherhood and related jihadist organizations.

Who takes the jihadists, the terrorists seriously? Saudi Arabia where they just rounded up a large ring of al Qaeda conspirators, Pakistan where they have finally begun to hammer the jihadis in Waziristan and other frontier provinces, and just about every nation with a Muslim majority.

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Advice from an Israeli Agent

Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ‘ Munich ‘ was based. He was Golda Meir’s bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know — but that our government has not yet shared with us.

He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O’Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O’Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.

Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.

Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.

Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke — that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

For example:

1. Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

2. He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can’t bring liquids on board. He says he’s waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked! Every strategy we have is reactionary.

3. We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel , security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.

Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as, rural America this time. The interlands ( Wyoming , Montana , etc.).

The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.

Aviv says terrorists won’t need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.

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